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Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out

From billy <billy@is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.networking
Subject Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out
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Date 2013-10-11 00:40 +0000
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Thad Floryan wrote:

> Here (Silicon Valley over Comcast's High Speed Internet)
> a 'ping centos.org' and a ping 'www.centos.org' both
> resolve to 85.12.30.227

A fortuituous circumstance has occurred. 
I can now connect to centos.org, via the web, ping, traceroute, etc!
I do NOT know what changed.
Here's what happened in the interim:
1. I wrote to the related sysadmins (I did not receive a response)
2. I changed my MTU (but it made no difference)
3. I changed machines (Win7, Centos, & Knoppix) which made no difference
4. I changed the TTL which also made no difference

Yet, look below. The route is completely different!
# ping www.centos.org
PING www.centos.org (85.12.30.227) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 85.12.30.227: icmp_req=1 ttl=44 time=236 ms
64 bytes from 85.12.30.227: icmp_req=2 ttl=44 time=165 ms
64 bytes from 85.12.30.227: icmp_req=3 ttl=44 time=164 ms
64 bytes from 85.12.30.227: icmp_req=4 ttl=44 time=169 ms
64 bytes from 85.12.30.227: icmp_req=5 ttl=44 time=180 ms
^C
--- www.centos.org ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 5 received, 16% packet loss, time 5043ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 164.682/183.212/236.535/27.238 ms

# telnet www.centos.org 80
Trying 85.12.30.227...
Connected to www.centos.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx/0.8.55
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 00:45:11 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Connection: close
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.9
Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=2170e308a49222dbe637c509e5c60702; path=/
Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT
Cache-Control: private, no-cache
Pragma: no-cache

Connection closed by foreign host.


# traceroute -M icmp www.centos.org
traceroute to www.centos.org (85.12.30.227), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  2.834 ms  2.827 ms  2.831 ms
 2  67-218-118-85.ridgewireless.net (67.218.118.85)  2.836 ms  2.834 ms  5.724 ms
 3  10.50.0.1 (10.50.0.1)  9.067 ms  17.504 ms  17.501 ms
 4  10.25.0.1 (10.25.0.1)  17.497 ms  24.062 ms  24.060 ms
 5  10.20.0.1 (10.20.0.1)  33.210 ms  33.209 ms  33.207 ms
 6  10.0.0.1 (10.0.0.1)  42.110 ms  27.157 ms  95.411 ms
 7  69.36.226.193 (69.36.226.193)  126.784 ms  17.564 ms  83.245 ms
 8  vl2.core2.scl.layer42.net (69.36.225.130)  83.220 ms  25.765 ms  75.471 ms
 9  xe-0-0-0-22.r07.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (140.174.21.101)  92.593 ms  17.517 ms  57.495 ms
10  te0-4-0-32.ccr21.sjc03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.10.49)  61.049 ms te0-7-0-32.ccr21.sjc03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.85)  
50.591 ms  98.951 ms
11  be2000.ccr21.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.105)  101.595 ms be2047.ccr22.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.113)  
25.443 ms be2000.ccr21.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.105)  31.126 ms
12  be2164.ccr21.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.28.33)  31.098 ms be2167.mpd22.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.28.77)  23.081 
ms be2164.ccr21.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.28.33)  106.955 ms
13  be2132.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.30.54)  121.000 ms be2135.mpd22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.34)  
125.153 ms be2132.ccr21.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.30.54)  125.125 ms
14  be2156.ccr21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.86)  125.095 ms be2159.mpd22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.24.82)  98.844 
ms be2156.ccr21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.86)  98.816 ms
15  be2079.ccr21.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.27.182)  108.449 ms  104.541 ms be2140.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com 
(154.54.43.186)  118.863 ms
16  be2091.ccr22.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.98)  118.831 ms be2090.ccr21.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.30.206)  
105.995 ms te0-1-0-1.ccr22.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.106)  173.380 ms
17  te0-5-0-6.ccr22.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.87.57)  165.254 ms be2183.ccr22.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.58.70)  
181.351 ms te0-4-0-6.ccr21.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.202)  191.954 ms
18  be2183.ccr22.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.58.70)  203.543 ms te0-3-0-12.mag21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.78.213)  
176.249 ms be2183.ccr22.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.58.70)  179.087 ms
19  10ge-2-3.cr1.ams3.baseip.com (149.6.128.198)  182.827 ms te0-3-0-12.mag21.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.78.213)  179.250 
ms 10ge-2-3.cr1.ams3.baseip.com (149.6.128.198)  193.421 ms
20  10ge-2-3.cr1.ams3.baseip.com (149.6.128.198)  176.902 ms 85.12.30.227 (85.12.30.227)  164.817 ms 
10ge-2-3.cr1.ams3.baseip.com (149.6.128.198)  217.757 ms

I'm not sure why the traaceroute is much longer, and, it stopped 
before Centos.org, but, the proof is in the taste of the pudding
in that a Firefox connection to http://www.centos.org works all
of a sudden.

Q: What changed?

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                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-10-09 22:09 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 01:07 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-10-10 07:41 +0100
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        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "ps56k" <pschuman_no5pam_m3@interserv.com> - 2013-10-10 16:34 -0500
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                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 00:40 +0000
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                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:26 +0000
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                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 20:19 +0000
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          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 17:41 +0000
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              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 21:18 +0000
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                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-10-09 22:25 -0400
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 03:48 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-10 05:10 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out ein <ein@no.spam> - 2013-10-10 13:24 +0200
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                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-10-11 00:01 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 20:21 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-10 21:04 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 01:18 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-10-11 00:03 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 00:57 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 01:07 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2013-10-11 08:56 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 00:47 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 00:58 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> - 2013-10-10 01:24 +0000
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2013-10-09 12:23 +0000
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-10-09 19:27 +0100
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 21:21 +0000
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 21:47 +0000
    Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 10:43 +0000
    Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 10:51 +0000
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out nemesis <nemesis@home.it> - 2013-10-09 08:14 -0300
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2013-10-09 12:24 +0100
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out nemesis <nemesis@home.it> - 2013-10-09 08:42 -0300
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 13:57 +0000
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2013-10-09 15:09 +0100
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 11:27 +0000
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out nemesis <nemesis@home.it> - 2013-10-09 08:58 -0300
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 18:44 +0000
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 19:58 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 21:23 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 21:38 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2013-10-09 16:14 -0700
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 00:30 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2013-10-09 18:02 -0700
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> - 2013-10-10 01:37 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-10 03:17 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 20:03 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 20:06 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 21:27 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 22:15 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 00:35 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2013-10-10 09:15 +0100
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 01:40 +0000
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out nemesis <nemesis@home.it> - 2013-10-10 23:03 -0300
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:43 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-10-11 16:11 +0100
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-11 04:11 +0000
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 04:19 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 04:25 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-11 04:45 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out ein <ein@no.spam> - 2013-10-11 08:06 +0200
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:32 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:41 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:48 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2013-10-11 09:00 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:30 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> - 2013-10-14 19:20 +0000
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2013-10-11 10:17 +0100
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:23 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2013-10-11 22:46 +0100
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Scott Hemphill <hemphill@hemphills.net> - 2013-10-14 16:47 -0400
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  Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "ps56k" <pschuman_no5pam_m3@interserv.com> - 2013-10-10 16:41 -0500
    Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2013-10-10 15:16 -0700
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        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "ps56k" <pschuman_no5pam_m3@interserv.com> - 2013-10-13 14:34 -0500
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            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "ps56k" <pschuman_no5pam_m3@interserv.com> - 2013-10-17 14:58 -0500
  Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "petrus bitbyter" <petrus.bitbyter@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-11 22:17 +0200
  Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "petrus bitbyter" <petrus.bitbyter@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-11 22:42 +0200
    Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-11 21:16 +0000
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-10-11 18:15 -0400
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "petrus bitbyter" <petrus.bitbyter@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-13 02:04 +0200

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