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Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem!

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Andy "Krazy" Glew wrote:
> On 9/1/2011 6:39 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> Andy "Krazy" Glew wrote:
>
>>> Recording the design rationales, rejected alternatives, etc., is what I
>>> am trying to do with comp-arch.net.  Slowly. Very slowly. Proprietary
>>> FUD always gets in the way,
>>
>> I understood that :-).
>>
>>> usually due to self-censorship (e.g. I won't
>>> post this now, because that would give you a clue as to what I am
>>> working on. Even though everything is public domain.)
>>
>> Which is why I asked that you put it somewhere, some time, so your
>> work doesn't get "lost" if you ever stop working.  I don't know,
>> nor have any suggestion, w.r.t. how you do this.  It's real tricky.
>> There are lots of things I didn't get preserved because of similar
>> reasons.  There are times I wish I had broken security policies
>> but it just wasn't possible back then.
>
> You should be able to seee that putting stuff on Bitsavers doesn't save
> the sensitivity problem.

Yes, I know.  If I had a good idea about how to do it, I'd have told you :-).

>
> In my copious spare time

<GRIN>

> I am rewriting the wiki software to have a
> delayed publication model: I write stuff that is public but sensitive
> because of time, and arrange for it to get published later.   A year
> later, three years later, randomized, all subject to the appropriate NDA.
>
> In the meantime, I write it up, put it in my private area, and try to
> remember to move it to the public area after enough time has gone by.

Yes, and this has a single-point failure potential.  These problems
aren't unique to just your stuff.  The computing biz was an
engineering corporate effort so the usual papers documenting mistakes,
trade-offs, and ideas dropped because the tech isn't available wasn't
done.  The science effort has this incorporated as part of their
procedures.  Even writing about the most mundane mistakes is
rewarded.

>
>
>>> Are you against wikis overall, or just wikipedia?
>>
>> Anything which allows assholes to destory knowledge and/or
>> productivity.
>
> Then you are not against wikis. Just wikipedia.


Or anything else that shows up which is used as anti-production.

>
> Wiki/hypertext make it easier to create knowledge.  Hypertext makes it
> easy to see links;  IMHO the biggest thing Ward Cunningham invented with
> wiki was a way of creating links to stuff that hasn't been written yet,
> making it easier to create hypertext.   The multiuser aspect if wiki is
> just icing on the cake.  I have a number of single user wikis (more than
> one of them because of security issues, usually; if wikis had good
> security, I might need only one).

Heh.  sounds like 10 useful projects there :-)).

>
> By the way: at both Intel and AMD, considerable computer architecture
> knowledge is created and managed using wikis.   One of the best things I
> did for AMD was introduce them to wikis.

Can infomartion be purged if it's not been accessed for some
pre-determined period of time?  Sources have been lost in the
past because of inactivity.  For instance, a site can have throrough
BACKUP procedures.  However, if a file hasn't been "touched" by a human,
for various definitions of touching, then noone notices that a file
has been deleted.  If the BACKUPs have a "hole" in time and the deletion
occurred during that hole, the file cannot be restored.  Note that
I'm using terminolgoy based on my old work days.

Somebody may have to translate for me using terms which are more
modern.

/BAH

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Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-08-30 13:32 +0000
  Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-30 07:02 -0700
    Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2011-08-30 17:09 +0200
    Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-08-31 13:21 +0000
      Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-31 07:55 -0700
        Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-01 13:39 +0000
          Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 01:24 +1000
          Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-09-01 08:28 -0700
            Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-02 13:44 +0000
      Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 04:30 +1000
        Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-01 13:39 +0000
          Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 01:26 +1000

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