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Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem!

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Andy "Krazy" Glew wrote:
> On 8/31/2011 6:21 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> Andy "Krazy" Glew wrote:
>>> On 8/30/2011 6:32 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>> Andy "Krazy" Glew wrote:
>>>>> On 8/29/2011 9:56 AM, nmm1@cam.ac.uk wrote:
>>>>>> In article<4E5BB93F.2030406@SPAM.comp-arch.net>,
>>>>>> Andy \"Krazy\" Glew<andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net>    wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/29/2011 4:56 AM, Terje Mathisen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snip interesting discussion>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am collecting these against the next time I am involved in an effort
>>>>> like MMX.  Where shortsighted people will say "all we need to support is
>>>>> 4:2:2 YUV, and we should add a special instruction just for that",
>>>>> rather than more general support.  Or vice versa.
>>>>
>>>> Please consider putting your collections on bitsavers, or somewhere,
>>>> so that the knowledge doesn't get lost.
>>>>
>>>> /BAH
>>>
>>> I am putting my collection on comp-arch.net --- my own personal
>>> wikipedia.  I had not considered it as Bitsavers, but fair enough.
>>
>> Not wiki.   Definitely not wiki.  I don't care where as long as all
>> your tradeoffs, which is the most important piece of designing but never
>> gets published.  In our biz, our mistakes and initial desing reasonings
>> rarely got put down on paper.
>>
>>>
>>> Why "my own personal" - well, I started putting it on wikipedia, but got
>>> tired of stuff being deleted by the wikipedia trolls.
>>
>>
>> I have yet to believe anything on wiki.  I think of it as a non-feature
>> and eventually dangerous.
>
> Recording the design rationales, rejected alternatives, etc., is what I
> am trying to do with comp-arch.net.  Slowly. Very slowly. Proprietary
> FUD always gets in the way,

I understood that :-).

> usually due to self-censorship (e.g. I won't
> post this now, because that would give you a clue as to what I am
> working on. Even though everything is public domain.)

Which is why I asked that you put it somewhere, some time, so your
work doesn't get "lost" if you ever stop working.  I don't know,
nor have any suggestion, w.r.t. how you do this.  It's real tricky.
There are lots of things I didn't get preserved because of similar
reasons.  There are times I wish I had broken security policies
but it just wasn't possible back then.

>
> Are you against wikis overall, or just wikipedia?


Anything which allows assholes to destory knowledge and/or
productivity.

>
> Like I said above, wikipedia is a loss for this sort of thing (1)
> because stuff gets deleted, and (2) because wikipedia wants
> authoritative references. I am trying to record folklore, less formal stuff.
>
> But wikis - easy to edit hypertext - are my preferred way of recording
> such stuff.
>
> There is lossage because I don't have good diagram support on any wiki I
> know well.  And I need better security / delayed publication /
> distributed version control / offline access, etc.
>
> But hypertext is the best way I know of to do this.  And wikis are the
> easiest form of hypertext to CREATE - perhaps not to read, but at the
> moment I am content creation limited. Must make composing the content as
> easy as possible.
>
> So, therefore, comp-arch.net is largely a private and semipublic wiki.
> Mostly readable by the world; writable by only me and a few others.

Well, at least there are a "few others".  I'm an auld fart and do
not have any valid suggestions about how to go about doing this stuff.
However, I am very experienced in watching knowledge get destroyed--
some was because of old-age but most was because of a determined effort
to eradicate that knowledge.

/BAH

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Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-08-30 13:32 +0000
  Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-30 07:02 -0700
    Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2011-08-30 17:09 +0200
    Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-08-31 13:21 +0000
      Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-31 07:55 -0700
        Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-01 13:39 +0000
          Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 01:24 +1000
          Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-09-01 08:28 -0700
            Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-02 13:44 +0000
      Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 04:30 +1000
        Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-01 13:39 +0000
          Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 01:26 +1000

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