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Re: XLibre in Debian

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 From a technical perspective, XLibre appears to offer several 
contributions:
- Long-term support for X server as legacy X implementations lose 
maintenance
- Continued security patches for X11-dependent environments
- Support for users who rely on remote X applications, specific window 
managers, or accessibility workflows that aren't fully addressed by 
Wayland
- Maintained compatibility for proprietary drivers where Wayland support 
remains incomplete

What is Debian's criteria for package inclusion? I'd suggest Debian 
evaluates the software separately from the maintainer's personal views. 
Many successful FOSS projects have contributors with diverse political 
perspectives, and Debian has historically emphasized technical merit and 
community benefit.

If Debian is concerned about working relationships, it could establish 
clear technical collaboration boundaries while still making useful 
software available to users who need it. Excluding technically sound 
software based on a maintainer's unrelated public statements sets a 
precedent that could fragment the FOSS ecosystem.

What specific technical or community standards should guide package 
inclusion decisions like this?

Aaron

On 2025-10-04 09:07, Alex wrote:

> (…)
> This shows to me that the XLibre main developer tries to spread
> borderline unscientific stuff (that mRNA from vaccines somenow
> finds its way into the cell's DNA) -- but doesn't qualify for
> me (yet!) as Nazi. I'd be still a bit wary of working with them.
> You can for example read these:
> - 
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181010.110142.d4f30249.en.html
> - 
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181010.120415.e5f96d11.en.html

I fail to see anyone in those two messages appearing as nazis (except
references to nazi Germany, historically). I do see someone whining
about CoC procedures being unfair/skewed/biased and personally I
disagree with that view.
As someone socialized in Germany I feel obliged to dispute the political
harmlessness of those messages. There is more to them than whining about
CoC procedures:

1. The attempt to portray allied bombings of German cities in WW2 as a
genocide is a neo-Nazi rallying point: German Neo-Fascists
coined/usurped the term ["Bombenholocaust"][1 [1]] to portray Germans as
victims rather than perpetrators of genocide.

2. The branding of ["Gleichschaltung"][2 [2]] as a leftist concept or 
the
NSDAP as a leftist party is sinister cynism *at best*, but more likely
fascist doublespeak.

[1]: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_(Begriff)#Bombenholocaust
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung

Quoting from one of the mentioned posts:

> Over here in Germany, anybody who talks about that, is automatically
> declared 'Nazi' by the leftists

... because they typically are.



Links:
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[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_(Begriff)#Bombenholocaust
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung

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XLibre in Debian Wojciech Lipinski <wlipinski@posteo.net> - 2025-10-02 15:20 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 18:00 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 10:40 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 23:30 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 19:00 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 22:10 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 23:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2025-10-03 00:00 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 00:00 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 04:10 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-10-03 07:50 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 14:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 18:40 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 20:20 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 18:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 20:20 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> - 2025-10-03 22:10 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 22:50 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 02:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 04:10 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-10-03 07:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 14:50 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2025-10-03 15:20 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 11:50 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Alex <alex@puer-robustus.eu> - 2025-10-04 16:40 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Aaron Johnson <acjohnson@pcdomain.com> - 2025-10-04 23:10 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2025-10-05 02:30 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Aaron Johnson <acjohnson@pcdomain.com> - 2025-10-05 11:50 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 13:10 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian wlipinski@posteo.net - 2025-10-02 23:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 10:30 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian wlipinski@posteo.net - 2025-10-09 14:20 +0200

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