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Re: XLibre in Debian

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On Fri, Oct 03, 2025 at 01:48:58AM +0200, Antoine Le Gonidec wrote:
> Le Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 01:24:48PM -0700, Soren Stoutner a écrit :
> > (…) I am not accustomed to Debian categorically rejecting software 
> > that is DFSG-free from inclusion based solely on the team that develops it.
> 
> To avoid confusion: I gave *my* opinion. My opinion as a Debian
> Developer, but still I am not Debian by myself.

This was not an opinion -- just a statement.

> As for why I strongly oppose the inclusion of this software into Debian,
> I won’t go into details so suffice to say that I am not willing to let
> Debian become a Nazi bar.

Ah, details. That comes closer to an opinion, thanks.

I see how one would not want to work with some people. It is a tough
question. It seems that the XLibre developer does hold some extreme
opinions (that is their right!), but doesn't seem willing to question
them from time to time (what can be a problem when working together).

I didn't research too much about it, but found those two [1] [2] in
The Register.

This shows to me that the XLibre main developer tries to spread
borderline unscientific stuff (that mRNA from vaccines somenow
finds its way into the cell's DNA) -- but doesn't qualify for
me (yet!) as Nazi. I'd be still a bit wary of working with them.

So, Antoine, you seem to have a point, but the way you "sell" it
doesn't really help towards an informed discussion.

Cheers

[1] https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/10/xlibre_new_xorg_fork/
[2] https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/11/linus_torvalds_vaccine_smackdown/
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XLibre in Debian Wojciech Lipinski <wlipinski@posteo.net> - 2025-10-02 15:20 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 18:00 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 10:40 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 23:30 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 19:00 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 22:10 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 23:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2025-10-03 00:00 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 00:00 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 04:10 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-10-03 07:50 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 14:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 18:40 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 20:20 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 18:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 20:20 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> - 2025-10-03 22:10 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 22:50 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 02:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 04:10 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-10-03 07:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 14:50 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2025-10-03 15:20 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 11:50 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Alex <alex@puer-robustus.eu> - 2025-10-04 16:40 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Aaron Johnson <acjohnson@pcdomain.com> - 2025-10-04 23:10 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2025-10-05 02:30 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Aaron Johnson <acjohnson@pcdomain.com> - 2025-10-05 11:50 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 13:10 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian wlipinski@posteo.net - 2025-10-02 23:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 10:30 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian wlipinski@posteo.net - 2025-10-09 14:20 +0200

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