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Re: XLibre in Debian

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Hi,

> > > (…)
> > > This shows to me that the XLibre main developer tries to spread
> > > borderline unscientific stuff (that mRNA from vaccines somenow
> > > finds its way into the cell's DNA) -- but doesn't qualify for
> > > me (yet!) as Nazi. I'd be still a bit wary of working with them.
> >
> > You can for example read these:
> > - https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181010.110142.d4f30249.en.html
> > - https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181010.120415.e5f96d11.en.html
>
> I fail to see anyone in those two messages appearing as nazis (except
> references to nazi Germany, historically). I do see someone whining
> about CoC procedures being unfair/skewed/biased and personally I
> disagree with that view.
>
> Can someone help spell out the horror even further, because I, too, see
> only a case of "urgh, I personally don't wanna spend time with that
> person" and no "Debian must avoid that project".

Some people were writing that Soren's questions are a "useless waste
of time", so I wanted to chime in that I think his questions seem
valid. Personally I never heard about XLibre before Wojciech's email,
despite reading LWN weekly and usually being "in the know" about FOSS
stuff. So far the two links above are the only references to an
explanation. As Jonas pointed out, it seems mostly like typical
discussion of CoCs, so who and why some are persona non grata is still
unclear to me. The inner circle of Debian might know all of this, but
regular DDs like me and Soren might have never heard about it.

However, as the topic seems sensitive, I don't expect to see this
explained on this mailing list, but rather on other forums where DDs
feel safer sharing, and I wouldn't insist on getting more replies
here.

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XLibre in Debian Wojciech Lipinski <wlipinski@posteo.net> - 2025-10-02 15:20 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 18:00 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 10:40 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 23:30 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 19:00 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 22:10 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-02 23:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2025-10-03 00:00 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 00:00 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 04:10 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-10-03 07:50 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 14:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 18:40 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 20:20 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 18:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 20:20 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> - 2025-10-03 22:10 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 22:50 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 02:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 04:10 +0200
        Re: XLibre in Debian <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2025-10-03 07:50 +0200
          Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 14:50 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2025-10-03 15:20 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 11:50 +0200
              Re: XLibre in Debian Alex <alex@puer-robustus.eu> - 2025-10-04 16:40 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Aaron Johnson <acjohnson@pcdomain.com> - 2025-10-04 23:10 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> - 2025-10-05 02:30 +0200
                Re: XLibre in Debian Aaron Johnson <acjohnson@pcdomain.com> - 2025-10-05 11:50 +0200
            Re: XLibre in Debian Antoine Le Gonidec <vv221@debian.org> - 2025-10-04 13:10 +0200
    Re: XLibre in Debian wlipinski@posteo.net - 2025-10-02 23:30 +0200
      Re: XLibre in Debian Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2025-10-03 10:30 +0200
  Re: XLibre in Debian wlipinski@posteo.net - 2025-10-09 14:20 +0200

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