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| From | Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: where is mail.log |
| Date | 2024-11-30 19:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <JOA4O-cODS-15@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | (3 earlier) <JOgSt-cA0d-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <JOpj3-cH3B-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <JOuVr-cLnT-3@gated-at.bofh.it> <JOyZ4-cNLI-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <JOzBL-cOdO-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| Organization | linux.* mail to news gateway |
Hi,
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 06:31:56PM +0100, Scott Andrews wrote:
> > From: "Andy Smith" <andy@strugglers.net>
> > Yes, that is what is being said: it is still possible to run Debian
> > without systemd. People are doing it. There are package maintainers that
> > wish to let people do it. Surprise! It's a funny old world.
>
> Well I didn't say you couldn't
So what exactly *are* you saying?
Bearing in mind you have replied to someone who has said it is
possible to use Debian without systemd with comments like
"You did not comprehend what I posted."
and
"They have dropped all sysV support."
only to then reply
"Well I didn't say you couldn't"
You're not making a consistent argument, so if we have to judge who is
not comprehending…
> > > Since debian is using systemd for their init system debian will have
> > > to come into the here and now.
>
> And debian is light years away from properly using systemd.
What deficiencies do you think exist in Debian 12 with regard to
systemd use?
> systemd-sysv 252.31-1~deb12u1
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Gone not longer supported
You've already conceded in the this very same email that it's possible
to run Debian without systemd so for those who do, it does not matter
what is or isn't in the systemd package, as they don't have it
installed!
> debian will need to see the lite or change to sysV init
What is involved in "seeing the lite" here? What exactly is it that you
think needs to change?
Thanks,
Andy
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