Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

From	Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?
Date	2024-02-16 17:40 +0100
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On 16/02/24 at 03:03, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 16/02/2024 03:17, Franco Martelli wrote:
>> On 15/02/24 at 03:28, Max Nikulin wrote:
>>>
>>>      LANG=C.UTF-8; LANGUAGE=; export LANG LANGUAGE
>>
>> Doesn't LC_ALL=C setting override LANG or LANGUAGE settings?
> 
> Sorry, my bad. Of course
> 
>      LC_ALL=C.UTF-8; LANGUAGE=; export LC_ALL LANGUAGE
> 
>> and LC_ALL=C override the LANG setting when used inline of the command.
> 
> 
> LC_ALL does not override LANGUAGE. Try e.g.
> 
>      LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=it aptitude why firefox-esr

here seems to override, tested twice with "it" and "it_IT.UTF-8":

~# env LC_ALL=C LANGUAGE=it script -T ~/test.time -a ~/test.script
Script started, output log file is '/root/test.script', timing file is 
'/root/test.time'.
root@itek:~# date
Fri Feb 16 15:27:06 CET 2024
root@itek:~# apt install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
root@itek:~#
exit
Script done.

root@itek:~# env LC_ALL=C LANGUAGE=it_IT.UTF-8 script -T ~/test.time -a 
~/test.script
Script started, output log file is '/root/test.script', timing file is 
'/root/test.time'.
root@itek:~# date
Fri Feb 16 15:28:42 CET 2024
root@itek:~# apt install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
root@itek:~#
exit
Script done.

and with "export LANGUAGE=it" defined in .bashrc LC_ALL=C override the same:

root@itek:~# env LC_ALL=C script -T ~/test.time -a ~/test.script
Script started, output log file is '/root/test.script', timing file is 
'/root/test.time'.
root@itek:~# date
Fri Feb 16 15:39:05 CET 2024
root@itek:~# apt install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
root@itek:~#
exit
Script done.

> 
>> # env LC_ALL=C script -T ~/upgrade-bookwormstep.time -a 
>> ~/upgrade-bookwormstep.script
> 
> Try to add "export LC_ALL=it_IT.UTF-8" to .bashrc and e.g."date" in the 
> script session.

Yes, the messages are localized to it_IT.UTF-8 into the "script" 
session, however users that have set LC_ALL variable into .bashrc I 
suppose already know what are they doing.

-- 
Franco Martelli

Thread

Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 21:50 +0100
  Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-13 22:00 +0100
    Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-02-13 22:10 +0100
      Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Will Mengarini <seldon@eskimo.com> - 2024-02-13 23:00 +0100
        Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-02-13 23:30 +0100
          Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 17:20 +0100
            Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 17:20 +0100
              Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 17:40 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 17:50 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 21:50 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 22:00 +0100
            Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 03:30 +0100
              Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 21:20 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 03:10 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 17:40 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-16 17:50 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-02-16 19:30 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 22:30 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 04:20 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-02-16 03:40 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 04:10 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2024-02-16 08:20 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-16 13:20 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 17:40 +0100
  Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-02-13 22:00 +0100
  Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-02-13 22:30 +0100
  Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? conover@panix.com (John Conover) - 2024-02-13 22:30 +0100
    Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-13 22:50 +0100
      Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-02-13 23:50 +0100
        Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 00:00 +0100
        Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-14 01:40 +0100
          Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-02-14 01:50 +0100
          Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-14 02:00 +0100
            Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 02:20 +0100
            Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 03:30 +0100
              Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-14 03:50 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 04:20 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-14 11:30 +0100
      Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-13 23:50 +0100

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