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Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?

From Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells?
Date 2024-02-14 21:50 +0100
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On 14/02/24 at 17:48, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 05:35:59PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote:
>> On 14/02/24 at 17:15, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>>> # env LC_ALL=C script -t 2>~/upgrade-bookwormstep.time -a
>>>> ~/upgrade-bookwormstep.script
>>> That command is already using Bourne family shell syntax (the 2> part)
>>> so you can drop the env.  It'll fail in csh regardless.  On the other
>>> hand, the env doesn't hurt anything.  It's just extra typing.
>>>
>>
>> Ah! However it's needed for csh users so they are warned, if it's extra
>> typing it doesn't hurt, thought.
> 
> csh cannot redirect stdout and stderr separately.  You can either redirect
> stdout only, or redirect them both into the same file.  It has *nothing*
> equivalent to >file1 2>file2.

A new question arise spontaneously: how can csh users run a "script" 
saved session using "scriptreplay" command? In the §4.4.1 "Recording the 
session" paragraph ¹  I see this syntax:

# scriptreplay ~/upgrade-bookwormstep.time ~/upgrade-bookwormstep.script

That it uses both stderr and stdout saved separately. Maybe they have to 
use another syntax or forcibly run a Bourne shell as you wrote below:

> 
> The usual recommendations for csh users who need to do this are either:
> 
> 1) Run sh, and then run the command.
> 2) sh -c 'long command with >file1 2>file2'

Then run env command at the beginning it is useless.

Thanks again

¹ 
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#record-session
-- 
Franco Martelli

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Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 21:50 +0100
  Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-13 22:00 +0100
    Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-02-13 22:10 +0100
      Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Will Mengarini <seldon@eskimo.com> - 2024-02-13 23:00 +0100
        Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-02-13 23:30 +0100
          Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 17:20 +0100
            Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 17:20 +0100
              Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 17:40 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 17:50 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 21:50 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 22:00 +0100
            Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 03:30 +0100
              Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 21:20 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 03:10 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 17:40 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-16 17:50 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-02-16 19:30 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 22:30 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 04:20 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-02-16 03:40 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 04:10 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Teemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi> - 2024-02-16 08:20 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-16 13:20 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 17:40 +0100
  Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-02-13 22:00 +0100
  Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-02-13 22:30 +0100
  Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? conover@panix.com (John Conover) - 2024-02-13 22:30 +0100
    Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-13 22:50 +0100
      Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-02-13 23:50 +0100
        Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 00:00 +0100
        Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-14 01:40 +0100
          Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-02-14 01:50 +0100
          Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-14 02:00 +0100
            Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 02:20 +0100
            Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 03:30 +0100
              Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-14 03:50 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-14 04:20 +0100
                Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-14 11:30 +0100
      Re: Does "LC_ALL=C" work on all shells? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-13 23:50 +0100

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