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Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics

From	Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.devel.release
Subject	Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics
Date	2023-11-07 14:40 +0100
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Hi Sebastian,

Am Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 10:53:00AM +0100 schrieb Sebastian Ramacher:
> Control: tags -1 moreinfo

I admit I'm not really happy about the bug ping-pong.
 
> > I just finished inspecting by eye the homepage of each of the 69 new
> > Bioconductor packages.  None of them declare a reverse-dependency to
> > an existing Bioc package that we ship in Debian.
> 
> We do not care about new reverse dependencies.

Seems there is some misunderstanding.  Charles has inspected pacckages
*outside* Debian whether they might be pulled by new versions of
packages *inside* Debian.  These would be candidates for new packages.

> We care about new
> dependencies of packages currently in the archive. So what's the status
> of new the dependencies?

Charles and I tried to explain in different ways: We do not have simple
means to answer this question.  But I had a different question;  What
exactly is the problem of a transition taking about 1 month due to some
delay by waiting for packages in new?
 
I somehow have the feeling that this transition is currently delayed by
some bug-mail / tagging ping-pong which is demotivating for both sides.
You make a request to some volunteers to do some extra work that was not
requested before and we volunteers explained that it is really hard
work.  I think it is fair to ask for the reasons you want us to do some
work which is definitely hard to do and for us painful and unproductive.

I have also no answer yet to some compromise to simply remove those
packages from testing that need new dependencies.  By doing so at least
to my naive understanding the transition should not create any blocker.

Kind regards
    Andreas.

-- 
http://fam-tille.de

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Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-10-27 16:10 +0200
  Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd@debian.org> - 2023-10-27 16:30 +0200
    Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2023-10-27 16:50 +0200
      Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd@debian.org> - 2023-10-27 18:40 +0200
  Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2023-10-28 19:00 +0200
    Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-10-29 06:40 +0100
      Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2023-10-29 17:10 +0100
        Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-10-29 18:10 +0100
          Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2023-11-01 11:10 +0100
            Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-01 11:40 +0100
              Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2023-11-03 02:10 +0100
                Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-07 06:50 +0100
                Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org> - 2023-11-07 11:00 +0100
                Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2023-11-07 14:10 +0100
                Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd@debian.org> - 2023-11-07 14:50 +0100
                Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-07 15:10 +0100
                Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd@debian.org> - 2023-11-07 19:40 +0100
                Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-07 21:10 +0100
                Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-07 14:40 +0100
                Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org> - 2023-11-07 15:20 +0100
                Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-07 18:10 +0100
        Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2023-11-01 08:40 +0100
  Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2023-11-09 15:10 +0100
    Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2023-11-10 09:50 +0100
      Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-10 12:10 +0100
      Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org> - 2023-11-10 23:40 +0100
        Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2023-11-11 01:50 +0100
  Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-10 23:40 +0100
    Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-13 11:20 +0100
      Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2023-11-19 16:40 +0100
      Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2023-11-22 21:00 +0100
        Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2023-11-28 01:30 +0100
          Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-28 10:30 +0100
  Bug#1054657: r-bioc-sparsearray_1.0.12+dfsg-1_amd64.changes is NEW Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2023-11-13 10:30 +0100
  Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-24 22:30 +0100
  Bug#1054657: Transition issue for r-cran-rstanarm (Was: Bug#1055922: rmatrix: ABI change in Matrix 1.6-2) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2023-11-26 17:30 +0100
    Bug#1054657: Transition issue for r-cran-rstanarm (Was: Bug#1055922: rmatrix: ABI change in Matrix 1.6-2) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2023-11-28 10:20 +0100
  Bug#1054657: Transition issue for r-cran-rstanarm (Was: Bug#1055922: rmatrix: ABI change in Matrix 1.6-2) Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2023-11-28 11:40 +0100
    Bug#1054657: Transition issue for r-cran-rstanarm (Was: Bug#1055922: rmatrix: ABI change in Matrix 1.6-2) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-11-28 16:00 +0100
      Bug#1054657: Transition issue for r-cran-rstanarm (Was: Bug#1055922: rmatrix: ABI change in Matrix 1.6-2) Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2023-11-29 14:40 +0100
  Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2023-12-03 09:30 +0100
    Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2023-12-03 11:50 +0100
      Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2023-12-03 22:20 +0100
        Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org> - 2023-12-05 15:50 +0100
    Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2023-12-07 15:40 +0100
      Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-12-07 16:20 +0100
        Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-12-07 16:40 +0100
        Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2023-12-07 19:40 +0100
        Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org> - 2023-12-11 11:40 +0100
          Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-12-11 13:40 +0100
            Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org> - 2023-12-11 13:40 +0100
              Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-12-11 17:10 +0100
                Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org> - 2023-12-11 18:00 +0100
      Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2023-12-08 17:10 +0100
        Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd@debian.org> - 2023-12-08 17:40 +0100
    Bug#1054657: Transition ready? (Was: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics)) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2023-12-13 11:50 +0100
      Bug#1054657: Transition ready? (Was: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics)) Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2023-12-13 13:30 +0100
      Bug#1054657: Transition ready? (Was: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics)) Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2023-12-13 14:20 +0100
        Bug#1054657: Transition ready? (Was: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics)) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-12-13 17:10 +0100
  Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2023-12-03 22:20 +0100
    Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-12-05 14:40 +0100
  Bug#1054657: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-12-04 06:40 +0100
  Bug#1054657: Source download of DeMixT broken Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2023-12-08 16:10 +0100
    Bug#1054657: Source download of DeMixT broken Andreas Tille <andreas@fam-tille.de> - 2023-12-12 15:10 +0100
  Bug#1054657: Source archive of DSS missing Andreas Tille <andreas@fam-tille.de> - 2023-12-08 16:10 +0100
    Bug#1054657: Source archive of DSS missing Andreas Tille <andreas@fam-tille.de> - 2023-12-12 15:20 +0100
  Bug#1054657: Transition ready? (Was: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics)) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-12-14 09:10 +0100
  Bug#1054657: Transition ready? (Was: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics)) Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2023-12-17 16:20 +0100
    Bug#1054657: Transition ready? (Was: Transition seems to be blocked (Was: Bug#1054657: transition: r-bioc-biocgenerics)) Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2023-12-18 10:20 +0100

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