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Re: lists

From Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: lists
Date 2023-12-21 00:20 +0100
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On 12/20/23 17:59, gene heskett wrote:
> On 12/20/23 14:14, Marco Moock wrote:
>> Am 20.12.2023 um 14:04:41 Uhr schrieb Pocket:
>>
>>> I have emails from other lists and personal email from other with the
>>> same time frame
>>>
>>> So in this case it was not because the email box/account was not
>>> available.
>>
>> Are you really that thick as a brick that you don't understand that
>> this is specific to the sender IP, in that case the Debian mailinglist
>> server?
>>
>>> That only leaves the number of sessions that were opened.
>>>
>>> How many sessions were opened sending that one email?
>>
>> Only one can be opened for that.
>> But multiple connections might exist for multiple mails, maybe also for
>> different users.
>>
>> Your ISP blocks those with a hard error and that is the fault.
>>
>> There is no hard limit in the SMTP RFC.
>> Your mailbox provider is the fault here.
>>
>>> second question does bendel.debian.org handle all the mail for all
>>> debian lists?
>>
>> There are other servers too that handle some mailing lists (e.g. for
>> bug reports), but bendel handles the "normal" Debian mailing lists that
>> end with @lists.debian.org.
>>
>>
>>> And could that be the reason to multiple sessions were opened from
>>> debian list servers?
>>
>> No, the reason is that SMTP doesn't specify that only a special
>> amount of connections can be established, but your provider enforces
>> that and give back a hard fail (5xx error).
>> If your mailbox provider handled that properly, it gave a 4xx error, so
>> bendel tries it again after a certain amount of time.
>>
>>> If that is the case then why no bounces occurred for the other lists
>>
>> Ask your mailbox provider for the logs to find out, we can't tell you.
>>
> I think I need to point out that this email service DOES NOT HAVE TO 
> BE LOCAL TO YOUR LOCALE. I am a customer of the Shentel cable system, 
> but they farm out the email by a subcontract to a dovecot provider 
> called mail2world. I am in north central WV, they are in Seattle Wash. 
> Proving that the physical mail server doesn't have to be local. You've 
> been drinking the koolaid if you think that server has to be in your 
> locality. It doesn't.
>

I never implied that, only that the ISP services are spectrum only in 
the area I live.

I have spoken


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lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 14:00 +0100
  Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 14:10 +0100
    Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 14:40 +0100
      Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 14:50 +0100
      Re: lists <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-20 14:50 +0100
      Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 16:10 +0100
      Re: lists Christoph Brinkhaus <c.brinkhaus@t-online.de> - 2023-12-20 16:20 +0100
        Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 16:20 +0100
          Re: lists Christoph Brinkhaus <c.brinkhaus@t-online.de> - 2023-12-20 16:30 +0100
          Re: lists Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-12-20 16:50 +0100
        Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 16:30 +0100
          Re: lists Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-12-20 16:40 +0100
            Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 16:50 +0100
              Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 17:00 +0100
              Re: lists Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-12-20 17:00 +0100
          Re: lists "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2023-12-20 17:30 +0100
            Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
        Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 17:00 +0100
          Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:10 +0100
            Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 17:20 +0100
              Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:20 +0100
                Re: lists <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-20 17:30 +0100
                Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 18:00 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 18:10 +0100
                Re: lists Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-12-20 19:30 +0100
                Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
                Re: lists <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 18:10 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-20 19:30 +0100
            Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
              Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
        Re: lists Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-12-20 17:00 +0100
          Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 17:20 +0100
            Re: lists <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-20 17:30 +0100
            Re: lists Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
              Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 18:00 +0100
                Re: lists Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-12-20 18:00 +0100
      Re: lists gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-20 18:00 +0100
        Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 18:10 +0100
          Re: lists Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-20 19:20 +0100
            Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 19:30 +0100
              Re: lists Hanno 'Rince' Wagner <wagner@debian.org> - 2023-12-20 19:50 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 20:10 +0100
                Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 20:20 +0100
                Re: lists Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-12-20 21:00 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 21:10 +0100
                Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 21:30 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 21:50 +0100
                Re: lists gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-21 00:00 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 00:20 +0100
                Re: lists John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-21 00:50 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 01:00 +0100
                Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-12-21 11:40 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 11:50 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-21 12:40 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 13:40 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2023-12-21 14:20 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-21 14:50 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 15:00 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-21 15:10 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Hanno 'Rince' Wagner <wagner@debian.org> - 2023-12-21 15:20 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 15:30 +0100
          Re: lists gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-20 23:40 +0100
            Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 00:00 +0100
              Re: lists Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2023-12-21 00:10 +0100
              Re: wireless broadband providers exist (was: lists) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-12-21 01:50 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-12-21 01:50 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 02:10 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-12-21 02:50 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 03:30 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-21 05:30 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-21 05:20 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 02:00 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-12-21 02:30 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 02:40 +0100

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