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Re: lists

From gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: lists
Date 2023-12-21 00:00 +0100
Message-ID <HNdHH-eXo6-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <HN9kK-eUNU-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <HN9up-eURj-21@gated-at.bofh.it> <HN9NM-eUZY-5@gated-at.bofh.it> <HNa77-eVpQ-19@gated-at.bofh.it> <HNagN-eVu6-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On 12/20/23 14:14, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 20.12.2023 um 14:04:41 Uhr schrieb Pocket:
> 
>> I have emails from other lists and personal email from other with the
>> same time frame
>>
>> So in this case it was not because the email box/account was not
>> available.
> 
> Are you really that thick as a brick that you don't understand that
> this is specific to the sender IP, in that case the Debian mailinglist
> server?
> 
>> That only leaves the number of sessions that were opened.
>>
>> How many sessions were opened sending that one email?
> 
> Only one can be opened for that.
> But multiple connections might exist for multiple mails, maybe also for
> different users.
> 
> Your ISP blocks those with a hard error and that is the fault.
> 
> There is no hard limit in the SMTP RFC.
> Your mailbox provider is the fault here.
> 
>> second question does bendel.debian.org handle all the mail for all
>> debian lists?
> 
> There are other servers too that handle some mailing lists (e.g. for
> bug reports), but bendel handles the "normal" Debian mailing lists that
> end with @lists.debian.org.
> 
> 
>> And could that be the reason to multiple sessions were opened from
>> debian list servers?
> 
> No, the reason is that SMTP doesn't specify that only a special
> amount of connections can be established, but your provider enforces
> that and give back a hard fail (5xx error).
> If your mailbox provider handled that properly, it gave a 4xx error, so
> bendel tries it again after a certain amount of time.
> 
>> If that is the case then why no bounces occurred for the other lists
> 
> Ask your mailbox provider for the logs to find out, we can't tell you.
> 
I think I need to point out that this email service DOES NOT HAVE TO BE 
LOCAL TO YOUR LOCALE. I am a customer of the Shentel cable system, but 
they farm out the email by a subcontract to a dovecot provider called 
mail2world. I am in north central WV, they are in Seattle Wash. Proving 
that the physical mail server doesn't have to be local. You've been 
drinking the koolaid if you think that server has to be in your 
locality. It doesn't.

> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
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  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
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  - Louis D. Brandeis

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lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 14:00 +0100
  Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 14:10 +0100
    Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 14:40 +0100
      Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 14:50 +0100
      Re: lists <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-20 14:50 +0100
      Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 16:10 +0100
      Re: lists Christoph Brinkhaus <c.brinkhaus@t-online.de> - 2023-12-20 16:20 +0100
        Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 16:20 +0100
          Re: lists Christoph Brinkhaus <c.brinkhaus@t-online.de> - 2023-12-20 16:30 +0100
          Re: lists Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-12-20 16:50 +0100
        Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 16:30 +0100
          Re: lists Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-12-20 16:40 +0100
            Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 16:50 +0100
              Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 17:00 +0100
              Re: lists Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-12-20 17:00 +0100
          Re: lists "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2023-12-20 17:30 +0100
            Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
        Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 17:00 +0100
          Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:10 +0100
            Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 17:20 +0100
              Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:20 +0100
                Re: lists <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-20 17:30 +0100
                Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 18:00 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 18:10 +0100
                Re: lists Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-12-20 19:30 +0100
                Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
                Re: lists <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 18:10 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
                Re: lists Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-12-20 19:30 +0100
            Re: lists Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
              Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 17:40 +0100
        Re: lists Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-12-20 17:00 +0100
          Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 17:20 +0100
            Re: lists <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-20 17:30 +0100
            Re: lists Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-12-20 17:50 +0100
              Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 18:00 +0100
                Re: lists Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-12-20 18:00 +0100
      Re: lists gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-20 18:00 +0100
        Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 18:10 +0100
          Re: lists Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-12-20 19:20 +0100
            Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 19:30 +0100
              Re: lists Hanno 'Rince' Wagner <wagner@debian.org> - 2023-12-20 19:50 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 20:10 +0100
                Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 20:20 +0100
                Re: lists Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-12-20 21:00 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 21:10 +0100
                Re: lists Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-20 21:30 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-20 21:50 +0100
                Re: lists gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-21 00:00 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 00:20 +0100
                Re: lists John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-21 00:50 +0100
                Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 01:00 +0100
                Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-12-21 11:40 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 11:50 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-21 12:40 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 13:40 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2023-12-21 14:20 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-21 14:50 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 15:00 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-12-21 15:10 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Hanno 'Rince' Wagner <wagner@debian.org> - 2023-12-21 15:20 +0100
                Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists] Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 15:30 +0100
          Re: lists gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-20 23:40 +0100
            Re: lists Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 00:00 +0100
              Re: lists Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2023-12-21 00:10 +0100
              Re: wireless broadband providers exist (was: lists) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-12-21 01:50 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-12-21 01:50 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 02:10 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-12-21 02:50 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 03:30 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-21 05:30 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-12-21 05:20 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 02:00 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-12-21 02:30 +0100
                Re: wireless broadband providers exist Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-12-21 02:40 +0100

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