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Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it.

From Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it.
Date 2022-01-04 11:30 +0100
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gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote on 03/01/2022 at 02:24:53+0100:

> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 5:58:44 PM EST Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>> gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote on 02/01/2022 at 23:53:19+0100:
>> > Greetings All;
>> > 
>> > Without any conscious prompting by me, te debian 11.1 netinstall for
>> > x86-64 systems installed and setup whatever was needed to bring the
>> > screen reader to life.
>> > 
>> > Any thing related to a braile function that I try to remove wants to
>> > kill
>> > another 2 or 3 gigs of system with it.
>> > 
>> > Quite distracting to a sighted user when that robotic voice, speaking a
>> > very broken bandwidth of what might be english, blaring out of ones
>> > speakers 20 db louder than firefoxes audio can I am sure, find a way to
>> > silence this w/o destroying the rest of the system. Removing orca will
>> > shut it up, but that leaves brltty spamming the daemon.log complaining
>> > about a missing library every 5 seconds.  And that's close to 40
>> > megabytes a week.
>> > 
>> > So, how does one shut up this useless to me, screen-reader and kill the
>> > log spamming at the same time?
>> > 
>> > I think its great that folks have gone to that effort for the sightless,
>> > but why is that sort of stuff always made mandatory.
>> > 
>> > I'd sure appreciate any help cleaning it out
>> > 
>> > Thanks everybody.
>> 
>> Removing brltty will only lead to the removal of its reverse
>> dependencies and so on. This stops at:
>> 
>> * brltty-espeak
>> * brltty-flite
>> * brltty-speechd
>> * brltty-x11
>> 
>> None of which you need.
>> 
> That wasn't the end of the dependencies.  There were 4 more I removed
> and had to kill 2 of them in memory with htop once they were removed,
> but the log is finally silent.
> Thank you. Both for the help, and for learning my language so well.

This is weird. What where the 4 more reverse-dependencies of brltty you
are referring to? (if you tried to remove more than brltty this is
normal that you had more deps).

>> Theoretically, removing brltty and orca takes little with it.
>
> The first time I tried to remove brltty, the removal cascaded all the
> way up thru all of gnome and xorg. Scary.

I think you probably tried to kill something else without realizing it.

>> I don't have brltty installed on neither my bullseye nor my unstable
>> installs.
>> 
>> Regards,
>
>
> Cheers, Pierre-Elliott Bécue, Gene Heskett.

Cheers!

-- 
PEB

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brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 00:00 +0100
  Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-03 00:10 +0100
    Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 02:30 +0100
      Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2022-01-03 03:00 +0100
        Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 03:20 +0100
      Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-04 11:30 +0100
        Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. rhkramer@gmail.com - 2022-01-04 15:00 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-04 15:20 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2022-01-04 19:30 +0100
  Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-01-03 04:00 +0100
    Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 04:40 +0100
      Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-01-03 04:50 +0100
        Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 10:40 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2022-01-03 17:00 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-01-03 22:50 +0100
            Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-04 01:30 +0100
  Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <jpmengual@debian.org> - 2022-01-03 04:00 +0100
    [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 04:50 +0100
      Re: [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2022-01-03 08:10 +0100
        Re: [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 10:50 +0100
          Re: [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2022-01-04 08:10 +0100

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