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Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it.

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On Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:56:10 PM EST Jude DaShiell wrote:
> You can configure brltty to choose none as the voice and silence that.
> Perhaps it's time for debian to have an accessibility task that can be
> deselected by those that don't need accessibility yet.  All accessibility
> programs that annoy the temporarily able could be put into that task and
> have it either selected or not.  For those that do need accessibility, it
> would be nice if the installer would come up and speak over the sound card
> giving the temporarily able the option to turn speech off for the install
> like slint has done for the last couple years.  Apple has done this with
> Tiger 10.4 and every operating system it released since then.  That's how
> I installed and got my mac mini running without any sighted assistance.
> If I had seen the screen and answered the question with the keyboard
> quickly enough, the speech would never have turned on at all.
> 
A big, hearty, Amen! to that "task" suggestion, Jude.

> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022, gene heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 2, 2022 5:58:44 PM EST Pierre-Elliott B?cue wrote:
> > > gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote on 02/01/2022 at 
23:53:19+0100:
> > > > Greetings All;
> > > > 
> > > > Without any conscious prompting by me, te debian 11.1 netinstall for
> > > > x86-64 systems installed and setup whatever was needed to bring the
> > > > screen reader to life.
> > > > 
> > > > Any thing related to a braile function that I try to remove wants to
> > > > kill
> > > > another 2 or 3 gigs of system with it.
> > > > 
> > > > Quite distracting to a sighted user when that robotic voice,
> > > > speaking a
> > > > very broken bandwidth of what might be english, blaring out of ones
> > > > speakers 20 db louder than firefoxes audio can I am sure, find a way
> > > > to
> > > > silence this w/o destroying the rest of the system. Removing orca
> > > > will
> > > > shut it up, but that leaves brltty spamming the daemon.log
> > > > complaining
> > > > about a missing library every 5 seconds.  And that's close to 40
> > > > megabytes a week.
> > > > 
> > > > So, how does one shut up this useless to me, screen-reader and kill
> > > > the
> > > > log spamming at the same time?
> > > > 
> > > > I think its great that folks have gone to that effort for the
> > > > sightless,
> > > > but why is that sort of stuff always made mandatory.
> > > > 
> > > > I'd sure appreciate any help cleaning it out
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks everybody.
> > > 
> > > Removing brltty will only lead to the removal of its reverse
> > > dependencies and so on. This stops at:
> > > 
> > > * brltty-espeak
> > > * brltty-flite
> > > * brltty-speechd
> > > * brltty-x11
> > > 
> > > None of which you need.
> > 
> > That wasn't the end of the dependencies.  There were 4 more I removed
> > and
> > had to kill 2 of them in memory with htop once they were removed, but
> > the
> > log is finally silent.
> > 
> > Thank you. Both for the help, and for learning my language so well.
> > 
> > > Theoretically, removing brltty and orca takes little with it.
> > 
> > The first time I tried to remove brltty, the removal cascaded all the
> > way up thru all of gnome and xorg. Scary.
> > 
> > > I don't have brltty installed on neither my bullseye nor my unstable
> > > installs.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > 
> > Cheers, Pierre-Elliott B?cue, Gene Heskett.
> 
> .


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 00:00 +0100
  Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-03 00:10 +0100
    Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 02:30 +0100
      Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2022-01-03 03:00 +0100
        Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 03:20 +0100
      Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-04 11:30 +0100
        Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. rhkramer@gmail.com - 2022-01-04 15:00 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2022-01-04 15:20 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2022-01-04 19:30 +0100
  Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-01-03 04:00 +0100
    Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 04:40 +0100
      Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-01-03 04:50 +0100
        Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 10:40 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2022-01-03 17:00 +0100
          Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-01-03 22:50 +0100
            Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-04 01:30 +0100
  Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <jpmengual@debian.org> - 2022-01-03 04:00 +0100
    [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 04:50 +0100
      Re: [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2022-01-03 08:10 +0100
        Re: [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-01-03 10:50 +0100
          Re: [FIXED] Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it. Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2022-01-04 08:10 +0100

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