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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?] |
| Date | 2017-05-07 11:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D534B6AC.A3E71%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
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On 5/7/17, 10:06 AM, in article
9d52d970-e2b7-4f86-b0ce-04247aba2edb@googlegroups.com, "Rick C. Hodgin"
<rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
> At no point does God advocate rape in the Bible.
Hard to take you seriously when you know so little of the bible!
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom,
surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every
quarter; and they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men
who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have
relations with them." But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and
shut the door behind him, and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act
wickedly. Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had
relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to
them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as
they have come under the shelter of my roof." But they said, "Stand
aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came in as an alien, and
already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat you worse than
them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to break the
door. But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot into the
house with them, and shut the door. And they struck the men who were
at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so
that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. Then the
men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and your
sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the
Lord has sent us to destroy it."
Great lesson... the "righteous" man is willing to hand his daughters over to
strangers to be raped. What a wonderful moral guide!
But instead of facing that you just deny that it exists at all! And there is
the other passage I already shared where it said a woman who is raped shall
be forced to marry her assailant! It is horrible!
> Sinful man does things which are against God's guidance and wishes. The
> movement of God in all cases toward man is in instructing him rightly, in
> holiness, in obedience, but just as today man was disobedient back then too.
>
> The Old Testament is also for a people guided only externally through the Law
> given to Moses. It had no saving power, but was a list of rules to bring
> people under authority, into obedience.
Ah, you do not take the laws of the bible as applying to you, including the
ones given to Moses which includes the 10 commandments. Once again you wipe
you ass with the bible.
> One of the verses in Judges Snit quoted stopped at Judges 11:24. If he
> would've included the next verse, Judges 11:25 says that God did not
> direct those men toward those actions, but that every man did what was
> right in their own eyes because they were not honoring God, and had no
> king, and were a lawless band of raiders essentially.
I quoted Judges 21:10-24... NOT Judges 11. Really, do you know the bible at
all?
Judges 21:10-24 NLT
-----
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders
to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what
you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and
every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of
Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never
slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the
land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant
of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of
Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of
Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there
were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for
Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel.
So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few
who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead?
There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of
Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own
daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that
anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh,
between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that
goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still
needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of
Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and
each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when
their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them,
'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we
didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead.
And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give
your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as
they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the
celebration and carried them off to the land of their own
inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the
assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they
returned to their own homes.
-----
> The entire law only serves to point out where we fail because of sin.
The "law" in the bible is filled with evil.
> It is our schoolmaster, teaching us we need a savior. And the Old
> Testament taught of the future coming Messiah who would save them
> and restore the proper kingdom.
>
> Jesus is that Messiah, and the kingdom He restores is in and through
> the transformation made possible only when He takes our sin away.
> This is our eternal Kingdom redemption, of eternal life as our sin
> is taken away, but He will also return to establish a Millennial
> Kingdom on Earth for 1,000 years. After that, the eternal Kingdom
> begins for all who were saved.
>
> Satan teaches falsely. He's a liar. And if you go to any source other than
> God Himself, through His written word and in diligent pursuit of the truth,
> Satan will be there to mislead us.
>
> God is not evil.
The character named "God" in the bible certainly does a lot of evil and
backs a lot of evil and tells people to do evil.
> God is good all the time. Satan is evil, and puts forth much effort to
> deceive you so that you won't be saved.
Why the hell would Satan even care? Seriously? Makes no sense.
> We live now in the age of grace and mercy. We can have forgiveness of
> sin through Jesus Christ. The day is coming when that grace and mercy
> is cut off. It's why we must receive Him today, because we aren't promised
> tomorrow.
For the same reason you should accept the Invisible Green Dragon. Will you?
Nope.
Thus you are a hypocrite. Again.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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