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Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?]

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Rape in the Bible [was: Re: Why is Jesus the only way?]
Date 2017-05-07 20:01 -0700
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On 5/7/17, 7:07 PM, in article oeojsc$lqc$1@news.albasani.net, "Melzzzzz"
<Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:

> On 2017-05-08, joel.rees@gmail.com <joel.rees@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 11:54:54 PM UTC+9, BruceS wrote:
>>> On 05/07/2017 07:08 AM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
>>>> Snit:
>>>> 
>>>>> Deuteronomy 22:28-29а:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not
>>>>> engaged,  he  must  pay  fifty pieces  of  silver to her father.
>>>>> Then he must marry the young woman because he violated  her, and he
>>>>> will never be allowed to divorce her.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah:  the  bible  says  a  rapist  must pay fifty pieces of silver
>>>>> and then the ictim is  forced  to marry the rapist.
>>>> 
>>>> No, the rapist is forced to marry the victim.
>>>> 
>>>>> What a horrid lesson.  Makes me want to puke.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And  that  is  just  one of the horrid lessons and stories of rape
>>>>> in the bible.
>>>> 
>>>> Looks like a genuine anti-rape law to me  that  will make  any  man
>>>> think twice before attempting a rape, because that may be the last
>>>> rape in his  life,  and the last woman in his life.  It is also quite
>>>> expen- sive and has serious consequences.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't see why you think it supports rape in  some- wise.
>>> 
>>> If a man wants to marry a particular woman, but she doesn't want him, he
>>> can simply rape her, thus forcing the marriage on her for a fixed cost,
>>> with no punishment.  That's pretty pro-rape.  The Bible is a guide to
>>> the very worst sort of morals.
>> 
>> Read the whole thing. Well, see Exodus 22: 16-17, which is part of the
>> necessary context. If the rape victim's father or other person who could
>> speak for the girl or woman tells the guy to get lost, the guy still has to
>> pay the money, and he doesn't get the girl.
>> 
>> That's not a perfect solution, and it has its own problems when fathers are
>> complicit, but in a society where the parents are complicit, there really
>> isn't much to be done to protect the children.
>> 
> Hm, considering that death penalty in Bible is proclaimed for minor things, we
> can conclude that rape was not considered serious thing...
> 
True enough.

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