Groups > comp.os.linux.advocacy > #353112

Re: done

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: done
Date	2016-05-01 15:32 -0700
Message-ID	<D34BD1FF.71924%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References	(8 earlier) <fhjdoaefa@rooftop.invalid> <D34BC05D.71903%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <fhjgd003.afa3@rooftop.invalid> <D34BC77F.7190D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <fhjf0q3.fa355@rooftop.invalid>

Show all headers | View raw

On 5/1/16, 2:58 PM, in article fhjf0q3.fa355@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>> Remember when you set up a task dealing with recipes and saving them as a
>>>> PDF. You accused me of cheating on that - OS X handled the task so well you
>>>> literally could not believe it was true. Peter Köhlmann joined you in that.
>>>> You both made false and unsupported accusations against ME, ones you could
>>>> not in any way support, based on your inability to believe OS X could
>>>> handle your hand-picked task as well as it did (not only doing what you
>>>> asked for but a LOT more in terms of speed, having smaller file sizes,
>>>> allowing me to select text and do searches, etc.).
>>> 
>>> All I remember about that was it turned out your "processing" speed was
>>> entirely related to your 50Mbps network connection vs my 8Mbps connection.
>> 
>> So you do no remember you and Peter accusing me of lying and cheating? That
>> has completely slipped you mind? Really?
>> 
>>> When I mirrored the site locally and did the same processing, it completely
>>> stomped your ass.  I guess we'll never know, since you were unable to
>>> mirror the site.
>> 
>> I could use wget if I wanted to... heck, I even have a GUI wrapper for it.
>> The claim I cannot do so is just silly... another lie from you.
>> 
> I thought it was you not being able to mirror it.  Maybe it was that
> the tool you used only worked over the network.

Odd given how you accusation was that I had the data locally and I was just
copying it from a local source. :)

I did not want to hard-code the URLs in the first place... I wanted it to be
more flexible and figure them out how many pages it needed to use based on
the first URL. You suggested it was fine to hardcode the URLs and I accepted
that. 

> Whatever the reason, you were unable to perform a local-only test to compare
> processing of PDF alone, without network delay being a factor.

So not recall details, but I know there was the problem that you could not
get yours to work with saving it as text - it converted it to an image or
something. Files were MUCH larger than mine and less usable (though at first
yours did not have the headers and stuff mine did... I later removed those
from mine)

But to get back to the point of your accusations: you and Peter BOTH
insisted I had cheated. You could not believe OS X allowed me to do YOUR
task so well (even better than you asked for): get the recipes, download
them as PDFs, have them at a size much smaller than yours, have them where
text could be selected and I could do easy lookups and the like.

> But who cares about this now, all these months later? You do.  LOL.  That's
> called butthurt.

You, TODAY, made ANOTHER baseless accusation. You, then, along with Peter
made a baseless accusation. You were proved wrong then... but you make so
many baseless accusations you do not even recall having gone on and on and
on demanding and begging I prove your baseless accusation was wrong.

This is a bad pattern for you: falsely accusing people of things you have NO
evidence for and NO reason to think are true. Do you not see why this is a
bad thing? 

With your task: I never did really get WHY someone would want to do it...
but it was just an exercise you selected. It was fun. It was based on tech
and even for those who have no such need it gave a good reason to show some
of the technologies and techniques available in the different platforms. It
was pretty cool... I appreciated it. I really wish there was a lot more of
that in COLA. 

You did the same thing with your system wide scripts... things which to some
extent emulated what OS X offers with greater context. It was also
instructive and of value... or at least interest. :)

I would love to see you focus on those types of things and not just on
trying to avoid technology by putting others on the defensive with
accusations you cannot back.

-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

Thread

done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-29 22:13 +0000
  Re: done John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 15:43 -0700
  Re: done DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 19:26 -0400
    Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 03:50 +0000
      Re: done Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 05:51 +0200
        Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 03:55 +0000
          Re: done Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 05:57 +0200
            Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 04:04 +0000
              Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 04:07 +0000
                Re: done Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 06:08 +0200
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 14:35 +0000
                Re: done Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 17:20 +0200
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 15:40 +0000
                Re: done Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 18:11 +0200
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 16:17 +0000
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 17:23 +0000
                Re: done Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-01 00:56 +0200
                Re: done Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-01 01:30 +0200
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 23:11 +0000
                Re: done Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-01 08:38 +0000
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-01 15:58 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 11:59 -0700
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 12:00 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-01 19:48 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 13:02 -0700
                Re: done Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-01 22:04 +0200
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 13:41 -0700
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 13:47 -0700
                Re: done Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-02 02:21 +0200
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 18:34 -0700
                Re: done chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 08:27 -0500
                Re: done Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 15:54 +0200
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 13:15 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-01 20:16 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 13:38 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-01 20:55 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 14:17 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-01 21:35 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 14:47 -0700
                Re: done Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-01 14:56 -0700
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-01 22:37 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 15:59 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-01 23:10 +0000
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-01 23:09 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 17:11 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 00:27 +0000
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 00:31 +0000
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 00:52 +0000
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 01:04 +0000
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 01:47 +0000
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 01:51 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 18:44 -0700
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 18:41 -0700
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 19:43 -0700
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 03:36 +0000
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 21:14 -0700
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 21:43 -0700
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 22:25 -0700
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 22:27 -0700
                Re: done ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 17:45 +0000
                Re: done Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 20:16 +0200
                Re: done Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 20:46 +0200
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 12:43 -0700
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 20:55 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 18:32 -0700
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 18:38 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 01:48 +0000
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 01:49 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 19:18 -0700
                Re: done ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 01:02 +0000
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 01:10 +0000
                Re: done chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 08:31 -0500
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:27 -0700
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 09:10 -0700
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:45 -0700
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 14:51 +0000
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 11:18 -0700
                Re: done ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 19:13 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 17:12 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 00:27 +0000
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 00:53 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 18:42 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 01:50 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 19:17 -0700
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 18:40 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 01:49 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 19:16 -0700
                Re: done ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 01:02 +0000
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 01:08 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 18:33 -0700
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 18:43 -0700
                Re: done William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-02 09:30 +0100
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 16:02 -0700
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 20:36 -0700
                Re: done meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 03:40 +0000
                Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 21:14 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-01 21:58 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 15:32 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-01 22:37 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 15:55 -0700
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-01 23:00 +0000
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-01 23:33 +0000
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 17:13 -0700
                Re: done Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-01 12:01 -0700
          Re: done DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 23:58 -0400
            Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 04:08 +0000
              Re: done Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 13:12 +0200
                Re: done Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 14:09 +0200
              Re: done DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-30 10:02 -0400
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 15:05 +0000
                Re: done DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-30 11:19 -0400
                Re: done owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-30 15:41 +0000
                Re: done DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-30 13:19 -0400
                Re: done Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-30 13:54 -0400
                Re: done DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-30 19:36 -0400
              Re: done Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 07:33 -0700

csiph-web