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Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share
Date	2015-09-04 13:24 -0700
Message-ID	<D20F4C07.59F2C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 9/4/15, 1:20 PM, in article d4ucorF1834U2@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> While being a bit better off financially makes it easier to afford
>>> higher education here, it is not all that difficult for those of lesser
>>> means. Loans and grants are all over the place to help, and there are
>>> many that also work their way through college.  It isn't a lack of
>>> money that keeps some from doing it, it is more a lack of fortitude and
>>> willingness to explore all the options.
>> 
>> 
>> I agree.
> 
> The big problem with the loans is twofold.
> 1.  Why are big loans available for degrees in fields that just don't pay
> enough to make paying them back viable?  That really needs to be looked
> at.
> 2.  When some loans become just not payable then there should be some way
> to get them forgiven or some modifications.  In the past there were some
> teaching jobs, Peace Corps and other service that could forgive at least
> portions of those loans.

I can accept those.

> But it really all comes back to #1.  Getting a fat loan for a degree in
> underwater basketweaving is just pure idiocy!
> 
> Well, make that 3-fold!  :)
> Tighten up the amount of the loans by quite a bit.  These schools have no
> incentive to tighten their belts as long as fat loans to students will
> cover the costs.  IOW, the cost at all too many schools is just pure
> fantasy not seen anywhere else but on a hospital bills fictions.

We need to treat education as an investment in the future, not a profit
center for the government. We do that with K-12... and now a four year
degree is just as important as that was when we started that.

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Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 03:00 +0200
  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:35 +0000
    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 09:11 -0400
      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 14:52 +0000
        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 16:53 +0200
        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 11:43 -0400
          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 17:53 +0200
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:59 +0000
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 18:07 +0200
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:10 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:16 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:20 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:24 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 19:17 +0200
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-02 11:21 -0500
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 16:36 +0000
          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:56 +0000
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 18:05 +0200
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-02 20:46 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 09:08 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-03 15:53 +0200
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 09:08 -0500
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 10:24 -0400
                DumFSck's idiocy chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 09:40 -0500
                Re: DumFSck's idiocy Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:02 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-03 12:28 -0600
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-04 00:24 +0200
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:09 -0400
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:22 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 17:45 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:03 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 09:17 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 13:35 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 10:42 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 15:25 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 12:55 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-03 09:31 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 16:42 +0000
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 09:26 -0400
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 10:39 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:04 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 12:52 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 17:02 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 17:00 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 20:56 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-04 08:53 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 10:20 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-04 07:39 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 10:49 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-04 08:55 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 09:19 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 12:58 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 10:11 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 12:57 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 10:03 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 15:44 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 19:50 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 12:58 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:11 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 13:17 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:27 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Hoppy Hopkins <hopster86u4me@surferb.net> - 2015-09-04 18:28 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:33 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:46 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:49 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:34 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:37 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-04 20:18 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 17:40 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:18 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 09:53 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 11:11 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 10:21 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 08:09 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 11:42 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 08:46 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 11:54 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:05 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share hifye <hifye@humanoid.net> - 2015-09-05 11:58 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 11:10 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:02 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:20 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:00 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-09-05 13:51 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:12 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:11 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:20 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 13:24 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:30 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:36 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:28 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:38 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:49 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 14:00 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 12:56 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 16:29 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:35 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:24 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:42 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:43 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:17 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:50 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 09:51 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 10:12 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 11:24 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:09 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:57 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:28 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 05:16 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 10:26 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-09-10 11:38 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 12:02 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 09:16 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 14:53 -0400
  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 18:46 -0700

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