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Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway

Date 2013-10-05 11:23 -0500
Subject Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway
From George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Message-ID <CE75A731.A228F%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> (permalink)
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On 10/5/13 10:48 AM, in article
michelle-CE01C5.08480805102013@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <CE7598E9.A2255%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> So is it still Bush's fault?
>>>> 
>>>> Of COURSE! It's the Mantra of the Left.
>>> 
>>> Um no.  It's the Koch brothers and Ted Cruz's fault, with a nudge to
>>> Paul Ryan as well.  You gotta stop living in the past, George.
>> 
>> Ummm, when barricades are put up around War Memorials and WWII Vets are
>> kept from visiting and military chaplains can face arrest for doing
>> their job, I would not say that it would be Ted Cruz's fault. The
>> Government has shut down 17 times in the past 30 years, and NEVER have
>> Veterans been locked out or threatened for doing their jobs.
> 
> True, the government shutdown is not directly Ted Cruz's fault; it is the
> fault of the Tea Party Republicans who are so afraid of the ACA working
> that they are willing to hold the government hostage in their attempts to
> defund the ACA.  They've tried and failed more than 40 times to repeal the
> ACA, so now they're trying to defund it by, as I said, holding the
> government hostage.
> 
> Military chaplains are not facing arrest for doing their jobs.
> 
> Thanks to the Tea Party Republicans in the House, there is no funding to
> keep the war memorials open; thats the reason the memorials are closed.
> And it's not that this is the first time they've been closed; it is the
> first time, though, that a bunch of right-wingers have made an issue of it
> for political/ideological reasons.
> 
>> In addition, the Biz Zero has ordered all NFL and MLB playoff games to
>> be blacked out for deployed soldiers,
> 
> Actually, the entire network has shut down because there is no money to pay
> for it. You can thank the Tea Party Republicans for that too.
> 
>> while he made sure that HIS military golf course would remain open.
> 
> Golf courses on military reservations are operated from Non-Appropriated
> Funds (i.e., funds that do not come from the federal treasury); therefore,
> they are not affected by the shutdown.  Furthermore, the courses are open
> to all military (and, I believe, retired military) personnel.  They are not
> "his" golf courses.  Furthermore, he has not played any golf since the
> shutdown has begun.
> 
>> And YOU are proud of this man, being a Veteran yourself?!?
> 
> I am proud of him for standing up to the attempted extortion being
> perpetrated by the Tea Party Republicans.
> 
> You've said, or at least implied, that those of us on the left hate G. W.
> Bush; that is incorrect.  We hate what he did, but we don't hate him.  The
> Tea Partiers and other right wingers hate Obama himself.

I really believe that you are just being sarcastic when you blame the Tea
Party for Obama's direct orders because your logic could not be possibly
THAT flawed. You have to be joking!

³The Park Service appears to be closing streets on mere whim and caprice.
The rangers even closed the parking lot at Mount Vernon, where the
plantation home of George Washington is a favorite tourist destination. That
was after they barred the new World War II Memorial on the Mall to veterans
of World War II. But the government does not own Mount Vernon; it is
privately owned by the Mount Vernon Ladies' Association. The ladies bought
it years ago to preserve it as a national memorial. The feds closed access
to the parking lots this week, even though the lots are jointly owned with
the Mount Vernon ladies. The rangers are from the government, and they¹re
only here to help.

ŒIt¹s a cheap way to deal with the situation,¹ an angry Park Service ranger
in Washington says of the harassment. ŒWe¹ve been told to make life as
difficult for people as we can. It¹s disgusting.¹²

<http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/3/pruden-the-cheap-tricks-of-t
he-game/>

And Todd Starnes reports that the military has ³furloughed as many as 50
Catholic chaplains due to the partial suspension of government services,
banning them from celebrating weekend Mass. At least one chaplain was told
that if he engaged in any ministry activity, he would be subjected to
disciplinary action.²

<http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/04/catholic-priests-in-military-face
-arrest-for-celebrating-mass/>

Please stop ignoring the obvious: The Democrats have had their way so MANY
times in the past because the Country Club Repubs did not want to LOOK bad
and be blamed for gridlock and caved. Well, there is NEW blood in the
conservative/libertarian part of the Party, that you and other Leftists
refer to as "Extreme Right-Wing Nazis", etc., that will not back down at the
whim. They have offered to pass legislation that would open up certain
services and what does your Party do? Harry Reid scoffs about taking care of
children with cancer. You must be SO proud!!!

-- 
³Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon will knock over all the pieces, crap on the board
and then strut around like it won the game!²

‹Vladimir Putin

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OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-09-30 19:46 -0500
  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-09-30 17:49 -0700
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-01 19:08 +0000
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 15:43 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-01 16:31 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:55 -0500
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:51 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 10:22 -0500
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 08:48 -0700
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 11:23 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 11:38 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-07 09:54 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-07 08:31 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 18:38 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-06 09:34 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-06 09:24 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 09:21 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-06 16:51 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-06 15:34 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 18:56 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-07 09:55 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 19:03 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-07 09:47 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-08 09:26 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-06 09:33 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-06 08:35 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-06 16:53 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 10:59 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 16:02 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 16:51 -0700
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-01 16:25 -0700
  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2013-09-30 20:42 -0500
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-09-30 23:00 -0400
  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-01 09:29 -0500
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 09:16 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 11:24 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-01 14:30 -0400
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 11:37 -0700
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-01 19:17 +0000
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2013-10-01 19:57 +0000
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 15:46 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-02 10:21 +0000
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-01 21:38 -0400
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:54 -0500
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-04 09:08 +1200
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:54 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:51 -0500
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-03 08:16 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-03 15:54 -0400
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-03 20:03 -0700
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-04 18:11 +1200
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 12:12 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 14:34 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 16:12 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 17:48 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 19:44 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 16:03 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:57 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 18:01 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 11:21 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-04 19:24 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 22:26 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 11:19 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 23:33 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 13:41 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 09:21 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-05 12:41 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 14:18 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-05 13:58 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 07:35 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 15:17 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 10:07 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-05 17:15 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 10:00 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 22:45 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 17:29 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-05 17:59 +0200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-04 19:18 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-07 10:06 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:51 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 23:37 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:47 +1200
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-04 13:41 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 17:59 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 09:23 +0100
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 12:12 +0000
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:55 -0700
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-01 14:41 -0400
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-02 09:34 -0500
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-02 14:50 -0400
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> - 2013-10-02 15:19 -0400
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-02 14:47 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-02 15:19 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 10:02 -0500
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-03 16:07 +0100
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 10:00 -0500
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:50 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:55 -0500
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-02 09:44 +1200
  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 10:55 -0700
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-01 19:14 +0000
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 13:52 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:56 -0500
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:53 -0500

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