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Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway

Date 2013-10-05 11:38 -0500
Subject Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway
From George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Message-ID <CE75AAC7.A2294%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> (permalink)
References (3 earlier) <CE72EFAC.A2032%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> <michelle-F8F117.16513003102013@news.eternal-september.org> <CE7598E9.A2255%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> <michelle-CE01C5.08480805102013@news.eternal-september.org> <CE75A731.A228F%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>

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On 10/5/13 11:23 AM, in article CE75A731.A228F%ghost_topper@hotmail.com,
"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On 10/5/13 10:48 AM, in article
> michelle-CE01C5.08480805102013@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
> Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
>> In article <CE7598E9.A2255%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
>>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> So is it still Bush's fault?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of COURSE! It's the Mantra of the Left.
>>>> 
>>>> Um no.  It's the Koch brothers and Ted Cruz's fault, with a nudge to
>>>> Paul Ryan as well.  You gotta stop living in the past, George.
>>> 
>>> Ummm, when barricades are put up around War Memorials and WWII Vets are
>>> kept from visiting and military chaplains can face arrest for doing
>>> their job, I would not say that it would be Ted Cruz's fault. The
>>> Government has shut down 17 times in the past 30 years, and NEVER have
>>> Veterans been locked out or threatened for doing their jobs.
>> 
>> True, the government shutdown is not directly Ted Cruz's fault; it is the
>> fault of the Tea Party Republicans who are so afraid of the ACA working
>> that they are willing to hold the government hostage in their attempts to
>> defund the ACA.  They've tried and failed more than 40 times to repeal the
>> ACA, so now they're trying to defund it by, as I said, holding the
>> government hostage.
>> 
>> Military chaplains are not facing arrest for doing their jobs.
>> 
>> Thanks to the Tea Party Republicans in the House, there is no funding to
>> keep the war memorials open; thats the reason the memorials are closed.
>> And it's not that this is the first time they've been closed; it is the
>> first time, though, that a bunch of right-wingers have made an issue of it
>> for political/ideological reasons.
>> 
>>> In addition, the Biz Zero has ordered all NFL and MLB playoff games to
>>> be blacked out for deployed soldiers,
>> 
>> Actually, the entire network has shut down because there is no money to pay
>> for it. You can thank the Tea Party Republicans for that too.
>> 

<http://washingtonexaminer.com/military-keeps-camp-david-open-halts-nfl-base
ball-coverage-to-troops-overseas/article/2536819>

>>> while he made sure that HIS military golf course would remain open.
>> 
>> Golf courses on military reservations are operated from Non-Appropriated
>> Funds (i.e., funds that do not come from the federal treasury); therefore,
>> they are not affected by the shutdown.  Furthermore, the courses are open
>> to all military (and, I believe, retired military) personnel.  They are not
>> "his" golf courses.  Furthermore, he has not played any golf since the
>> shutdown has begun.
>> 
>>> And YOU are proud of this man, being a Veteran yourself?!?
>> 
>> I am proud of him for standing up to the attempted extortion being
>> perpetrated by the Tea Party Republicans.
>> 
>> You've said, or at least implied, that those of us on the left hate G. W.
>> Bush; that is incorrect.  We hate what he did, but we don't hate him.  The
>> Tea Partiers and other right wingers hate Obama himself.
> 
> I really believe that you are just being sarcastic when you blame the Tea
> Party for Obama's direct orders because your logic could not be possibly
> THAT flawed. You have to be joking!
> 
> ³The Park Service appears to be closing streets on mere whim and caprice.
> The rangers even closed the parking lot at Mount Vernon, where the
> plantation home of George Washington is a favorite tourist destination. That
> was after they barred the new World War II Memorial on the Mall to veterans
> of World War II. But the government does not own Mount Vernon; it is
> privately owned by the Mount Vernon Ladies' Association. The ladies bought
> it years ago to preserve it as a national memorial. The feds closed access
> to the parking lots this week, even though the lots are jointly owned with
> the Mount Vernon ladies. The rangers are from the government, and they¹re
> only here to help.
> 
> ŒIt¹s a cheap way to deal with the situation,¹ an angry Park Service ranger
> in Washington says of the harassment. ŒWe¹ve been told to make life as
> difficult for people as we can. It¹s disgusting.¹²
> 
> <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/3/pruden-the-cheap-tricks-of-t
> he-game/>
> 
> And Todd Starnes reports that the military has ³furloughed as many as 50
> Catholic chaplains due to the partial suspension of government services,
> banning them from celebrating weekend Mass. At least one chaplain was told
> that if he engaged in any ministry activity, he would be subjected to
> disciplinary action.²
> 
> <http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/04/catholic-priests-in-military-face
> -arrest-for-celebrating-mass/>
> 
> Please stop ignoring the obvious: The Democrats have had their way so MANY
> times in the past because the Country Club Repubs did not want to LOOK bad
> and be blamed for gridlock and caved. Well, there is NEW blood in the
> conservative/libertarian part of the Party, that you and other Leftists
> refer to as "Extreme Right-Wing Nazis", etc., that will not back down at the
> whim. They have offered to pass legislation that would open up certain
> services and what does your Party do? Harry Reid scoffs about taking care of
> children with cancer. You must be SO proud!!!


-- 

"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally
authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an
actual or imminent threat to the nation."

- Sen. Barack Obama, December 20, 2007

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OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-09-30 19:46 -0500
  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-09-30 17:49 -0700
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-01 19:08 +0000
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 15:43 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-01 16:31 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:55 -0500
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:51 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 10:22 -0500
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 08:48 -0700
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 11:23 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-05 11:38 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-07 09:54 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-07 08:31 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 18:38 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-06 09:34 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-06 09:24 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 09:21 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-06 16:51 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-06 15:34 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 18:56 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-07 09:55 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 19:03 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-07 09:47 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-08 09:26 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-06 09:33 -0500
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-06 08:35 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-06 16:53 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 10:59 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 16:02 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 16:51 -0700
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-01 16:25 -0700
  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2013-09-30 20:42 -0500
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-09-30 23:00 -0400
  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-01 09:29 -0500
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 09:16 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 11:24 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-01 14:30 -0400
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 11:37 -0700
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-01 19:17 +0000
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2013-10-01 19:57 +0000
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 15:46 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-02 10:21 +0000
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-01 21:38 -0400
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:54 -0500
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-04 09:08 +1200
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:54 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:51 -0500
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-03 08:16 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-03 15:54 -0400
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-03 20:03 -0700
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-04 18:11 +1200
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 12:12 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 14:34 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 16:12 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 17:48 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 19:44 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 16:03 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:57 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 18:01 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 11:21 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-04 19:24 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-04 22:26 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 11:19 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 23:33 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 13:41 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 09:21 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-05 12:41 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 14:18 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-05 13:58 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 07:35 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 15:17 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 10:07 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-05 17:15 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 10:00 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 22:45 +0100
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 17:29 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-05 17:59 +0200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-04 19:18 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-07 10:06 +1300
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:51 +1200
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 23:37 +0000
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 09:47 +1200
              Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-04 13:41 -0700
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 17:59 -0400
                Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-05 09:23 +0100
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 12:12 +0000
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:55 -0700
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-01 14:41 -0400
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-02 09:34 -0500
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-02 14:50 -0400
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway William Munny <will@bigwhiskey.gov> - 2013-10-02 15:19 -0400
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-02 14:47 -0700
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-10-02 15:19 -0700
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 10:02 -0500
            Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-03 16:07 +0100
        Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 10:00 -0500
          Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-03 16:50 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:55 -0500
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-02 09:44 +1200
  Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 10:55 -0700
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-10-01 19:14 +0000
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 13:52 -0700
      Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:56 -0500
    Re: OT: Woman Shot in Driveway George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-03 09:53 -0500

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