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| From | Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] |
| Date | 2021-07-13 21:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <CAwq6-5Ro-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | <CAkIh-6NL-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <CAqkG-1Xh-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <CArqp-2Dr-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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Le mardi 13 juillet 2021, 16:09:50 CEST Celejar a écrit : > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 16:08:53 +0300 > > Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 08:01:58AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > Github (Gitlab, Sourceforge, etc) were and are non-free (as in - > > > > non-gratis) services, so it's only reasonable to stay away from > > > > them > > > > regardless of whom is controlling them. > > > > > > What do you mean by calling them non-gratis services? I know that > > > some > > > of their services are non-gratis, but basic code hosting certainly > > > is > > > gratis. > > > > You do not pay for these services, yet they provide them to you and > > everyone else (with certain exclusions). > > Guess who is the product here? The answer is - you are the product. > > Payment involving money is not the only kind of payment that you can > > make today. > > I think that's an unreasonable definition of gratis and non-gratis. If > a FLOSS dev gets an ego boost, or even some sort of spiritual > satisfaction, from people using his software, does that mean it's > non-gratis? An ego-boost doesn’t grant power, that is, possibility of action of your will on the actions of others. But github as a platform provides a great deal of power to microsoft. They litterally own your data. Maybe not your programs, but maybe all your metadata + what was listed later (bugreports, etc.). The mail you answer to sadly didn’t explain concretely what is the payement, and how you can make money from it. The answer is: selling personal data. Both what you output, what comes from you, and what is inputted to you, what to see. Knowing what you say, what you see, what you like to see, and deciding it sells very profitably nowadays, agueably more than oil.
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Re: Offensive variable names "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-13 09:10 +0200
Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-07-13 09:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-13 11:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-07-13 11:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2021-07-13 11:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-13 12:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 14:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian Thompson <brian@hashvault.io> - 2021-07-13 14:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-13 15:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 16:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-07-13 17:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 18:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-07-13 21:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-13 22:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-07-13 23:50 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 06:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-07-14 07:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-07-14 16:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-14 16:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> - 2021-07-13 21:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-07-13 22:30 +0200
[OT] Selling beer (was: Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names]) Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-07-14 00:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 01:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> - 2021-07-13 19:30 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 20:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-13 20:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-07-13 21:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-13 21:50 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-07-14 00:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-14 09:40 +0200
Re: Working for free "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-14 09:50 +0200
Re: Working for free Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-14 11:50 +0200
Re: Working for free "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-14 12:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-07-14 15:00 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-07-14 15:40 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-14 19:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> - 2021-07-13 21:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 01:20 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-07-14 08:50 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 14:10 +0200
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-14 15:10 +0200
Re: Working for free "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-13 12:10 +0200
Re: Working for free <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-07-13 12:10 +0200
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