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Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names]

From "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names]
Date 2021-07-14 15:00 +0200
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On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 02:59:27PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 07:32:19PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > May I suggest we get back on-topic.
> 
> There's a topic?  I think we're so far from the topic that we can't
> even get back to it with a compass.
> 
> > Greg Wooledge (he who has
> > disappeared) could just sensitively edit the wiki page he has
> > an interest in, That's what I would do.
> 
> I "disappeared" because I had nothing more to say.  Also apparently
> any time I say anything, I'm perceived as a jerk.  Or maybe it's just
> when I stand up for myself, who knows.
> 
> I've restored the sources.list entries in the FAQ sections of the wiki
> pages for stretch and buster.  We'll see what happens next, I guess.
> 

For what it's worth - I had a check on IRC in debian-www

The wiki isn't as tightly policed and is more of a free for all: if you see
something that's wrong, you can change it. There's a creative tension between
what should sit on the wiki / what should be on www.debian.org.

I also had a quick chat with Paul on IRC

He'd forgotten about the change: it was that long ago. He did make the point
that it seemed sensible to centre it on SourcesList for him: it's no huge 
matter since anything can be changed.

Each set of release notes also has the sources.list stanzas in it, I think,
and if you're coming from updating older releases, you'd be looking to the
next set of release notes anyway to see what's changed, ideally.

There Is No Cabal - this isn't quite Wikipedia with policies, edit wars 
and badged issues police, at least as far as the wiki's concerned.
www.d.o is a bit tighter - not least because well-intentioned edits cause
havoc with the good folk who do translations and there's a defined process
so that they don't end up having to re-edit tens of pages for a tiny fix
on a URL, for example. [Been there, caused that, got the T shirt]

This list has a bunch of varying experience and expertise - all of it is
valuable and valued.

All the very best, as ever, to all

Andy Cater

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Re: Offensive variable names "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-13 09:10 +0200
  Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-07-13 09:30 +0200
    Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-13 11:00 +0200
      Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-07-13 11:30 +0200
      Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2021-07-13 11:30 +0200
        Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-13 12:00 +0200
      Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 14:10 +0200
        Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian Thompson <brian@hashvault.io> - 2021-07-13 14:10 +0200
        Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-13 15:10 +0200
          Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 16:20 +0200
            Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-07-13 17:30 +0200
              Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 18:00 +0200
              Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-07-13 21:40 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-13 22:00 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-07-13 23:50 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 06:10 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-07-14 07:00 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-07-14 16:20 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-14 16:30 +0200
            Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> - 2021-07-13 21:40 +0200
              Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-07-13 22:30 +0200
                [OT] Selling beer (was: Re: Working for free [was: Offensive  variable names]) Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-07-14 00:30 +0200
              Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 01:20 +0200
        Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> - 2021-07-13 19:30 +0200
          Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-13 20:10 +0200
            Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-13 20:40 +0200
              Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-07-13 21:00 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-13 21:50 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-07-14 00:40 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-14 09:40 +0200
                Re: Working for free "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-14 09:50 +0200
                Re: Working for free Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-14 11:50 +0200
                Re: Working for free "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-14 12:40 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-07-14 15:00 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-07-14 15:40 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-14 19:20 +0200
            Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu> - 2021-07-13 21:20 +0200
              Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 01:20 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-07-14 08:50 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-07-14 14:10 +0200
                Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-07-14 15:10 +0200
    Re: Working for free "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-07-13 12:10 +0200
      Re: Working for free <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-07-13 12:10 +0200

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