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Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters

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AndyHancock wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> AndyHancock wrote

>>> Boy, what a confusion.  Low-level formatting isn't really
>>> formatting these days.  But I'll take what I can get:
>>> Diskpart's "clear all", which writes zeros everywhere.

>> And in fact thats what most modern drives do if you tell them to low level format now.

> So when Toshiba said that problems with the media would be
> revealed in a formating, would it be right to interpret "formatting"
> that as "low level formating" (writing zeros), not the old-school
> formatting of scribing tracks and marking sectors?

Dunno. I was quite surprised by Toshiba's comment along those lines and
find it very hard to believe that they do use that approach to diagnosing
a possible hard drive fault, if only because that approach is destructive
of the user's settings and content and can comprehensively stuff up a
system that can have the user's files and settings saved before doing
something that drastic.

I think its rather unlikely that the Toshiba droid that said that to you
is correct, but you can see some operations with the silliest ideas about
what makes sense at times, to it is possible, albeit rather unlikely IMO.

> I'm putting forth the former as the possibly right interpretation because it wouldn't
> make sense for them to say the latter if modern HDDs do not do the latter.

Yeah, they cant even do that.

> When I formatted, I got no errors, and I'm guessing
> that it is because writing zeros isn't a very rigorous test...

In fact modern drives just silently reallocate sectors in that situation
and the only evidence you get that the drive has a problem is that
the number of reallocated sectors increases after the format.

> I seem to recall that sectors could be re-allocated even in a brand new HDD.

While thats theoretically correct, in practice it isnt seen.

> Then again, maybe I *do* have no bad sectors.
> The SMART report says 0 raw Reallocated Sector Count.

Thats not what it said when you first did a SMART report. You had 696.

Presumably they replaced the drive, thats why its now 0. 

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chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 10:59 -0800
  Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> - 2012-02-12 06:46 +1100
  Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 07:15 +1100
    Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 13:00 -0800
      Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 08:53 +1100
        Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 21:54 -0800
          Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 19:31 +1100
            Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 07:04 -0800
  Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-11 19:02 -0500
    Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 13:21 +1100
      Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 22:05 -0800
        Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 19:39 +1100
          Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 19:24 -0800
            Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 19:37 -0800
            Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-13 19:52 +1100
              Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-13 22:20 -0800
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-13 22:31 -0800
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 02:40 +1100
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-14 20:51 -0800
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 16:12 +1100
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 02:36 +1100
      Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters Rob <mesamine@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 03:15 +1100
        Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 07:43 +1100
          Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters Rob <mesamine@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 14:29 +1100
            Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 16:05 +1100
              Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-16 12:40 -0500
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-17 07:59 +1100
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters Rob <mesamine@gmail.com> - 2012-02-17 08:55 +1100
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-17 09:41 +1100
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters Rob <mesamine@gmail.com> - 2012-02-17 10:14 +1100
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-17 11:20 +1100
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters Rob <mesamine@gmail.com> - 2012-02-17 23:37 +1100
                Re: chkdsk all partitions at once, including those without drive letters "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-18 01:02 +1100

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