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Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ?

From	Arno <me@privacy.net>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Subject	Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ?
Date	2012-01-01 02:33 +0000
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Salam <salem@dogfucker.com> wrote:
> Arno wrote:
>> Salam <salem@dogfucker.com> wrote:
>>> Arno wrote:
>>>> Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 29 d?c, 20:11, Joseph Terner <jtusenet-nos...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> You already lost it by dropping the drive on the floor. Damage by
>>>>>> excessive G-forces is easily detected by just looking inside the
>>>>>> drive. So WD bills your credit card with $200 for the replacement
>>>>>> drive.
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I suppose you are right.
>>>>> Because the drive did not fall from a high point and was off (the
>>>>> HDD was initially set vertically in an external box then fell flat
>>>>> on the floor). I expected that this event may not be the cause of
>>>>> my problems.
>>>>> I neither gave my credit car number nor sent the drive yet. I
>>>>> think I will keep my damaged drive.
>>>>
>>>>> But what happen if you buy a HDD damaged by the vendor (so you
>>>>> can't know it before you buy it) and you get problems months later.
>>>>> Will WD charge you $200 for fixing the drive ?
>>>>
>>>> Difficult.
>>
>>> For the hard drive manufacturer, yes.
>>
>>>> Typically yes, unless you can show it was
>>>> damaged in shipping.
>>
>>> Its the hard drive manufacturer that has to do the showing, not the
>>> consumer.
>>
>> Typically the HDD vendor can demonstrate improper handling

> Bet they can not in this particular case.

> so
>> the customer has no claim against them and the burden of proof
>> is reversed.

> Nope.

>> The customer can make a claim against the vendor, but that is
>> difficult.

> Nope, not in jurisdictions with viable consumer law. 

Well Roddels, calling EU consumer law non-viable is
pretty stupid. As usual.

Arno
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Thread

How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-27 07:00 -0800
  Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-12-28 05:16 +1100
    Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-27 14:12 -0800
      Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Kirk Bubul <khbubul@charter.net> - 2011-12-27 18:30 -0600
      Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-28 17:49 +0000
        Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-28 13:06 -0800
          Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-28 22:41 +0000
            Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-29 08:40 -0800
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-29 17:41 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-29 10:12 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-30 17:11 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:58 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-01 20:31 +0000
          Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Joseph Terner <jtusenet-nospam@gmx.de> - 2011-12-29 19:11 +0000
            Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-29 12:57 -0800
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 10:16 +1100
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-30 11:53 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2011-12-31 04:27 +1100
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:55 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2012-01-01 05:44 +1100
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-01 02:33 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2012-01-01 14:09 +1100
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-30 17:13 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:57 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2012-01-01 05:48 +1100
            Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-30 11:52 +0000
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? christophe colomb <christophe.colomb@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 04:06 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2011-12-30 17:16 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:49 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-01 20:19 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-02 08:32 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2012-01-02 20:00 +1100
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-02 17:56 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-02 22:28 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Salam" <salem@dogfucker.com> - 2012-01-03 19:48 +1100
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:48 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-01 20:17 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-02 08:36 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-02 17:57 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-01-02 22:30 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "arno fucker" <af@arnofucker.com> - 2012-01-03 20:06 +1100
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Joseph Terner <jtusenet-nospam@gmx.de> - 2012-01-03 10:14 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Winniethepooh@100acrewoods.net (GMAN) - 2012-01-03 17:27 +0000
              Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 04:14 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 05:31 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-31 13:51 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Joseph Terner <jtusenet-nospam@gmx.de> - 2011-12-30 18:15 +0000
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? christophe colomb <christophe.colomb@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 12:38 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Castor Nageur <guilbert.stabilo@gmail.com> - 2011-12-30 12:41 -0800
                Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-12-31 13:04 +1100
  Re: How can I reformat a (very) damaged hard disk ? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2011-12-28 08:00 +0000

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