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Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem!

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jmfbahciv wrote
> Andy "Krazy" Glew wrote
>> jmfbahciv wrote
>>> Andy "Krazy" Glew wrote
>>>> jmfbahciv wrote
>>>>> Andy "Krazy" Glew wrote
>>>>>> nmm1@cam.ac.uk wrote
>>>>>>> Andy \"Krazy\" Glew<andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> wrote
>>>>>>>> Terje Mathisen wrote

>>>>>> I am collecting these against the next time I am involved in an
>>>>>> effort like MMX.  Where shortsighted people will say "all we
>>>>>> need to support is 4:2:2 YUV, and we should add a special
>>>>>> instruction just for that", rather than more general support.
>>>>>> Or vice versa.

>>>>> Please consider putting your collections on bitsavers,
>>>>> or somewhere, so that the knowledge doesn't get lost.

>>>> I am putting my collection on comp-arch.net --- my own personal
>>>> wikipedia.  I had not considered it as Bitsavers, but fair enough.

>>> Not wiki.   Definitely not wiki.  I don't care where as long as all
>>> your tradeoffs, which is the most important piece of designing but
>>> never gets published.  In our biz, our mistakes and initial desing
>>> reasonings rarely got put down on paper.

>>>> Why "my own personal" - well, I started putting it on wikipedia,
>>>> but got tired of stuff being deleted by the wikipedia trolls.

>>> I have yet to believe anything on wiki.  I think of it as a
>>> non-feature and eventually dangerous.

>> Recording the design rationales, rejected alternatives, etc., is
>> what I am trying to do with comp-arch.net.  Slowly. Very slowly.
>> Proprietary FUD always gets in the way,

> I understood that :-).

>> usually due to self-censorship (e.g. I won't post this now,
>> because that would give you a clue as to what I am
>> working on. Even though everything is public domain.)

> Which is why I asked that you put it somewhere, some time, so
> your work doesn't get "lost" if you ever stop working.  I don't know,
> nor have any suggestion, w.r.t. how you do this.  It's real tricky.

Not really. Even gmail alone provides a pretty decent place to dump it
with some distribution of the password to allow others access to that.

Synergy is one example of the sort of preservation of that sort of design notes stuff.

> There are lots of things I didn't get preserved because of similar
> reasons.  There are times I wish I had broken security policies
> but it just wasn't possible back then.

>> Are you against wikis overall, or just wikipedia?

> Anything which allows assholes to destory knowledge and/or productivity.

Trouble is that misses the point on it being one hell of a resource as well.

>> Like I said above, wikipedia is a loss for this sort of thing (1) because
>> stuff gets deleted, and (2) because wikipedia wants authoritative
>> references. I am trying to record folklore, less formal stuff.

>> But wikis - easy to edit hypertext - are my preferred way of recording such stuff.

>> There is lossage because I don't have good diagram support on any
>> wiki I know well.  And I need better security / delayed publication /
>> distributed version control / offline access, etc.

>> But hypertext is the best way I know of to do this.  And wikis are
>> the easiest form of hypertext to CREATE - perhaps not to read, but
>> at the moment I am content creation limited. Must make composing the
>> content as easy as possible.

>> So, therefore, comp-arch.net is largely a private and semipublic wiki.
>> Mostly readable by the world; writable by only me and a few others.

> Well, at least there are a "few others".  I'm an auld fart and do
> not have any valid suggestions about how to go about doing this stuff.
> However, I am very experienced in watching knowledge get destroyed--
> some was because of old-age but most was because of a determined
> effort to eradicate that knowledge.

Not even possible anymore. In spades with wikileaks. 

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Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-08-30 13:32 +0000
  Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-30 07:02 -0700
    Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2011-08-30 17:09 +0200
    Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-08-31 13:21 +0000
      Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-08-31 07:55 -0700
        Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-01 13:39 +0000
          Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 01:24 +1000
          Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Andy \"Krazy\" Glew" <andy@SPAM.comp-arch.net> - 2011-09-01 08:28 -0700
            Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-02 13:44 +0000
      Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-01 04:30 +1000
        Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2011-09-01 13:39 +0000
          Re: Solving the Floating-Point Goldilocks Problem! "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2011-09-02 01:26 +1000

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