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Re: Net neutrality demise

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On 2017-11-28, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2017-11-28, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
>>
>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> Another reason for being glad one does not live in the USA. Still, now
>>> we'll get to see if the aphorism that "the Internet treats censorship
>>> as a fault and routes around it" is true or not.
>>
>> Does that explain why email I send from my account in NS to my wife [1]
>> whose address is on another ISP based in Ontario is routed through the
>> USA?  Huh.
>
> Not the same thing. That depends on where your ISP has bought bandwidth.
>
>> I can't surmise if that sort of routing will give US service/backbone
>> providers leverage to arm-twist Canadian ISPs into some new and odious
>> fee structure.
>
> In which case it will be worth Canadian ISPs setting up their own bandwidth.
> IMNHO, the "net neutrality" thing will result in much less traffic being
> routed through the USA.

Between 2005 and 2010 or so, I was getting regular speed boosts from my
cable ISP without extra charges.  This was no doubt driven by competition.

A notable aspect of those upgrades was that for the first week or three,
US sites didn't seem to be any faster.  That delay was probably down to
the ISP monitoring the demands of several hundread thousand users and
then negotiating with whoever for the newly required bandwidth, and
stumping up whatever extra cash was necessary.

>
>> [1] Yes, she's two rooms away but URLs or full text for technical
>>     articles don't make for good shouted exchanges, let alone
>>     convivial fireside conversation. :-)
>
> Two rooms? I email stuff to my wife who's sitting 5 feet to my left!

Heck, I've emailed long URLs and code snippets to myself just to read
them on a different system :-)

(I do have better methods for doing that nowadays)

-- 
Everybody has a testing environment. Some people are lucky enough to
have a totally separate environment to run production in.

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Net neutrality demise RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-11-21 17:29 -0500
  Re: Net neutrality demise RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-11-21 17:33 -0500
  Re: Net neutrality demise Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-11-21 22:57 +0000
    Re: Net neutrality demise The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-11-22 13:38 -0800
      Re: Net neutrality demise Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-11-22 21:59 +0000
        Re: Net neutrality demise RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-11-26 18:58 -0500
          Re: Net neutrality demise Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-11-27 02:12 +0000
            Re: Net neutrality demise Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-11-27 08:34 +0000
              Re: Net neutrality demise RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-11-27 15:52 -0500
                Re: Net neutrality demise Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-11-28 08:04 +0200
                Re: Net neutrality demise Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-11-28 08:35 +0000
          Re: Net neutrality demise Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-11-27 08:32 +0000
            Re: Net neutrality demise Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-11-28 02:13 -0400
              Re: Net neutrality demise Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-11-28 09:29 +0000
                Re: Net neutrality demise Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-11-28 10:29 +0000
                Re: Net neutrality demise Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-11-28 13:56 +0100
              Re: Net neutrality demise Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-11-28 11:01 +0000
      Re: Net neutrality demise Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2017-11-23 23:04 -0600
  Net neutrality is dead RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-12-14 14:49 -0500
    Re: Net neutrality is dead Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-12-14 21:57 +0000
      Re: Net neutrality is dead snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2017-12-14 22:23 +0000
        Re: Net neutrality is dead RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-12-15 01:00 +0000
        Re: Net neutrality is dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-12-15 16:19 +0100
        Re: Net neutrality is dead Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-12-15 18:18 +0200
          Re: Net neutrality is dead Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-12-16 01:55 -0400
      Re: Net neutrality is dead Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2017-12-16 21:24 +0000
        Re: Net neutrality is dead Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-12-17 10:15 +0000
          Re: Net neutrality is dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-12-17 14:54 +0100
            Re: Net neutrality is dead Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2017-12-17 18:27 +0100
              Re: Net neutrality is dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-12-20 10:19 +0100
                Re: Net neutrality is dead Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2017-12-23 14:57 +0100
          Re: Net neutrality is dead RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-12-18 00:12 +0000
            Re: Net neutrality is dead Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2017-12-17 19:25 -0600
          Re: Net neutrality is dead Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2017-12-20 02:02 +0000
            Re: Net neutrality is dead arnold@skeeve.com (Aharon Robbins) - 2017-12-20 19:18 +0000
              Re: Net neutrality is dead Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2017-12-23 03:50 +0000
    Re: Net neutrality is dead RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2018-06-11 14:29 -0400
      Re: Net neutrality is dead RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2018-06-12 12:34 -0400
        Re: Net neutrality is dead Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-06-18 12:05 +1000

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