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Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users
Date 2019-02-14 16:07 +0000
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chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> owl wrote:
> 
>> chrisv wrote:
>>> 
>>> a friend advised me, years ago, to avoid "isolation" lifts and to
>>> focus on "big lifts".  As such, last year's modest lifting routine was
>>> only bench press, military press, lat pulldowns, and lat rows.
>>
>>That's not a bad selection for upper body focus.  Just make
>>sure the weight is manageable with good form.
> 
> Well, I try, but it seems that after a few months my strength rises to
> the point where my joints can't take it.  I mean, by definition,
> weight-training means pushing your body to its limits, right?  I'm
> doing like 10 reps at whatever weight...
> 

The idea is not to overdo it though.  And to get enough rest between
workouts to recover, but not so much that you're starting from scratch
the next time.  Try to hit it three or four times a week, with rest
days between each workout.  But don't rest more than about three days
between workouts.  Do three to five sets of five to seven reps.  If
you can do ten reps with a given weight, it's time to add a plate 
and drop the reps.

Ease into it, and give it time.  Three months is not enough.  Pain that's
not from an injury is probably just DOMs, and that's normal, but it can
be erased by a frequency adjustment.  I only ever get sore if I wait
too long between workouts.   Pain from an injury is a different thing,
and you need to let it rest.  I've had to lay off pullups for about six
months now because of a injury somewhere deep in my left elbow area.
I substituted wide-grip lat pulls with lighter weight.
 

>>> I know that doing squats and such are probably the best of them all,
>>> but I'm not going to do those, for several reasons.  My legs and
>>> overall core strength are pretty good, from running.
>>
>>You should try them anyway.  Squats work your back and core in ways you
>>might not be used to.  Really, though, if you can get in the gym and do
>>any of these basics, you'll get results.  If you have to narrow it down
>>to one or two, deadlifts and overhead press would be my picks.
> 
> The deadlift is the one exercise that I would *never* attempt.  I
> value my back too much, to take that risk.  If you can do it correctly
> and avoid injury, fine.
>  

There are several variations of deadlift, but the standard version is
more of a push (with your legs) than a pull.  The lower back is not
at risk unless you are attempting a weight that's too heavy and your
back starts to round.  The main thing to worry about with deadlifts is
tearing a bicep because you forget to keep your arms out of the exercise.
There are some good videos showing proper form on youtube.  The main
idea is to keep your back straight (meaning in its natural alignment)
and keep the weight close to your body.  Let it ride up your shins in
a straight line as you push with your legs.  In general, the standard
deadlift is a safe.  And it's a hell of a near total body exercise.

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Blast from the past (Feb 1999): Windows Refund Day - When GuhNoo/Linux Users Demanded Their Money Back DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 15:01 -0500
  GuhNoo/Linux Users Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-02-06 12:15 -0800
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      Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-06 20:43 +0000
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        Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-06 18:22 -0500
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                Re: Get rid of your "ball and chain". Ratchetjaw <ratchetjaw@mail.com> - 2019-02-08 14:10 +0000
                Re: Get rid of your "ball and chain". chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-08 08:18 -0600
                Re: Get rid of your "ball and chain". "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-02-08 10:22 -0500
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          Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-09 21:28 -0500
            Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-11 04:21 +0000
              Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-11 07:25 -0600
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              Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-11 13:50 -0500
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                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-11 22:15 +0000
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-11 18:14 -0500
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 01:51 +0000
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-11 21:09 -0500
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 02:17 +0000
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-11 22:12 -0500
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-12 04:51 +0000
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-12 06:49 -0600
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-12 22:07 -0500
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 07:02 -0800
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-13 10:21 -0500
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 07:48 -0800
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-13 10:08 -0600
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-13 17:12 +0000
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 09:27 -0800
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-13 17:58 +0000
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2019-02-13 10:34 -0800
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                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-13 19:20 +0000
                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-02-14 07:41 -0600
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                Re: GuhNoo/Linux Users DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2019-02-14 23:27 -0500
  Re: Blast from the past (Feb 1999): Windows Refund Day - When GuhNoo/Linux Users Demanded Their Money Back owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-02-06 20:54 +0000
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