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| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10 |
| Subject | Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' |
| Date | 2025-03-02 11:49 +0000 |
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On 1 Mar 2025 16:53:52 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
>John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>[...]
>
>> My Bank is killing their ability to send verification codes to email
>> addy's. I've done that since about 2010 when I opened the account. I
>> don't *have* a fucking mobile 'phone for them to be sent to. I told
>> the branch manager that. He told me that I'd need to *phone* their
>> "helpdesk" to be confirmed as my being an obnoxious, Luddite,
>> uncompromising, nasty little arsehole and for them to allow me to be
>> an exception.
>
> Real banks have real security. Neither e-mail nor SMS count as real
>security.
*I* know this and *you* know this but the buggers in Marketing and
Upper Level Management do not.
Just have a look at the pig's breakfast that is the latest version of
the "Computer Use Restrictions In England" Act, the "Online Safety
Act". It's a pile of shite. Which is rather alarming as the M.P.'s
voting it in have access to enough funds to pay for colossal numbers
of the really brightest of tech guys. They just don't *listen*. Nor,
apparently, do corporate manglers.
Hubris, arrogance and elitist leanings give them the idea that they
know better than the experts who have worked with real security for
decades and them being control-freaks gives them the fixed notion that
they can alter the physics of reality with their whims. They are
stupid, little people with grand myopia in every field save
controlling the people.
Many of them don't even have that.
Yet they are "in control" so we have to live with it.
For my part, I don't have enough funds to make a hack worthwhile so
I'm happy with the "security" provided by three "passwords" and the
HTTPS protocols. Until they fail me. Then I'll get upset. :)
>
> We (in The Netherlands) have had hardware TOTP (Timed One Time
>Passsword) generators since eons.
I do have one of them ... sorry, two of them, one per bank for two
different banks, but the banks don't use them any longer.
>Yes, we *also* have other means, but
>anyone can still have and use the hardware TOTP device. So we only need
>any computing device with a web-browser, the hardware TOTP device and
>the bankcard which goes into its slot. No phone or phone number needed.
UKlander banks would *require* a mobile number just to be arseholes
even were one not necessary. Everyone seems to. :)
It's mainly a tracking thing. Like the USAlien "social security
number" or England's "National Insurance Number" or your birthdate. I
have lots of some of those. :)
>
> Picture of an example of a hardware TOTP device:
><https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabo_Scanner#/media/Bestand:Rabo_Scanner.jpeg>
Yeah. Mine's nicer. :)
>
> Related (Dutch) Wikipedia webpage:
><https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabo_Scanner>
Dutch is neither German nor English but I was interested to learn
that I could follow most of those pages. Thank you. :)
I used my little RSA device for years when setting up new payees and
other stuff but eventually the bank simply quietly dropped it -
probably because they were paying for the service and cheapness
increases profiteering. There are days, usually Sundays, when I think
of offering it back to them but I forget.
It still has juice and still "works".
J.
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OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-02-27 18:38 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-27 18:50 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-02-28 23:50 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-02-27 13:51 -0500
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Jack <noreply@mandrill.com> - 2025-02-27 18:54 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-02-27 19:04 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-28 18:22 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-02-28 20:04 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-02-28 23:58 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-01 08:40 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-02 11:15 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-01 16:53 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-01 18:21 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-01 18:58 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-02 11:49 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-02 13:33 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-02 20:51 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-01 17:28 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-02-28 09:29 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-02-28 16:19 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-01 00:00 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-03-01 12:30 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-02 11:24 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-03-02 11:51 +0000
Re: OT but amusing; A Tale of Curry' John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-03-02 20:32 +0000
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