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| Date | 2016-11-13 12:59 -0800 |
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| Subject | Re: I'm so conflicted... |
| From | Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> |
On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 11:06:17 AM UTC+2, Paul Rubin wrote: > "Elizabeth D. Rather" writes: > > In polyFORTH, PAD was an offset from HERE... having an individual PAD > > for every task *avoids* re-entrancy problems... It is intended as a > > convenience for user programs, to provide a re-usable temporary buffer > > under the sole control of the application. > > Why not let the user program ALLOT a chunk of memory for such purposes > if it wants? How much memory did those systems typically have? I guess > things are different now in that small systems have flash program > memory, often leaving them with less ram (formerly called core) than the > old small systems had. I think of Forth on a MSP430G2553 (512 bytes > ram) or even an Arduino (2k ram) and go "wow, 80 bytes for PAD is pretty > costly". Of course it's possible to declare an environmental dependency > and shrink or eliminate PAD, but I don't understand why it's there in > the first place. This is what I do in FlashForth. Each task has a PAD of size zero at the end of its user area. It is up to the programmer to allot space for each instance of PAD. PAD is there because of some historical reasons. I have never needed it myself.
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