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| From | Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: Which Books Can You Recommend For Learning Computer Programming? |
| Date | 2016-04-16 16:09 -0300 |
| Organization | Bridgewater Institute for Advanced Study - Blacksmith Shop |
| Message-ID | <87inzh1ic0.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <proto-F451EE.11003415042016@news.panix.com> <alpine.LNX.2.02.1604151414130.17695@darkstar.example.org> <p378uc-a5h.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> <slrnnh42bl.18p.mausg@Smaus.org> <MPG.317be46ddda17a2e98a0e4@news.eternal-september.org> |
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: > In article <slrnnh42bl.18p.mausg@Smaus.org>, mausg@mail.com says... > >> We lived in a magical time, everything could be hacked with. Now, >> little can. > > Kids today hack cars you know, in the "hacker" sense. In the '50s > you had to understand carburetors, now you have to understand > ECUs--same ojbective, different technique. Not just "technique" is different. Until circa 1965, everything was analogue. You could figure out how it worked by taking it apart. Now you can't. You need original documentation, sophisticated instumentation, advanced knowledge of tech. In the 60s, I worked at "BJ's Foreign Auto". Bud had been in the US Navy in WW II, worked in Britain for a few years afterward as a mechanic, later opened his own business in Leftpondia. In a university twon with crazy kids and eccentric professors, we saw all kinds of weird European cars, many of which were never commercialy exported to the US. When we got a car with the engine in the wrong end, installed (notionally) backwards (Panhard) or one with belts and pulleys instead of a transmission (DKW, IIRC) or propellers and hull (Amphicar) or worn parts that would take 6 months to get from Italy (Lancia) and were giving it the doubtful eye, Bud would say, "A man made it. A man can fix it!" And we would do just that. No longer. A computer designed it -- often "in its own image, after its likeness" -- and robot made it. Such are at least still analogue physical objects but often designed intentionally not to be repairable. Hacking anything with a proprietary digital black box is not even slightly the same kind of thing as hacking real hardware. Hacking a desktop computer, even with extensive documentation and kernel source available, is not even slightly the same kind of thing -- as I am currently seeing, trying to solve a problem with excessive memory usage when writing to a newly installed HD. Solutions offered on Usenet are mostly, "Upgrade to a newer kernel." Nobody says that about my 1936 Pierce Arrow. Hacking analog hardware is open to kids with a certain cognitive style that tilts to spatial relations and attention to visual detail. Hacking a car's coupter module(s) isn't open to anyone who hasn't read a vast amount of technical literature. 1947: Bud and Lefty Griswold burned out a rod bearing on their old heap in trials for a stock car race. No parts, no time. Lefty crawled under the car, dropped the pan, replaced the bearing with a piece of leather cut from his belt, bolted it all up. They won the race. Let's hear it for analogue. -- Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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