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Re: New hard drive

From	Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: New hard drive
Date	2015-09-11 15:07 -0700
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Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> writes:
> YOu mean the government is now providing backup service?

except from when they aren't

somebody's reference on Facebook

Never Forget - On 09/10/01, Sec Rumsfeld announced $2.3T
was missing from the pentagon operating budget. Hours
later, the Pentagon Accounting Offices were Destroyed.
https://www.facebook.com/End.AIPAC/photos/a.542024679212055.1073741825.379531218794736/903420069739179/
The War On Waste
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-war-on-waste/


some comments, backups?

where were the data backups or had it be outsourced to private-equity
subsidiary? aka enormous uptic last decade in outsourcing to for-profit
companies and private-equity has so perfected looting for-profit
gov. contractors ... they had the companies doing security clearances
just filling out paperwork and not bothering to actually do any checks
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

Security clearances used to be a government function too, but are now a
profit center for various private-equity subsidiaries.

... snip ...

including company that did Snowden's security clearance.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article24750283.html
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/06/21/Heres-How-Edward-Snowden-Got-Top-Secret-Clearance

more recent instance

OPM Contractor's Parent Firm Has a Troubled History
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/24/opm-contractor-veritas/

Founded in 1992 by the late investment banker Robert McKeon, Veritas
Capital grew quickly by buying up government contractors and forming
close ties with former senior government officials. Of the many
defense-related investments made by the company, the most famous has
been the 2005 purchase of DynCorp International, a scandal-plagued
company that played a pivotal role in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

... snip ...

private equity posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

The Pentagon Lost $8.5 TRILLION of Taxpayers' Money
http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/06/the-pentagon-lost-8-5-trillion-of-taxpayer-money/

DOD isn't the only way that the military industrial complex has of
sucking money .... congress also does "directed appropriation" foreign
aid .... where a foreign country can only use the foreign aid for the
purchase of specific american made military hardware (and of course
since 9/11 ... it also has DHS) ... corporate representatives approach
former eastern bloc countries and tell them if they vote for invasion of
Iraq in the UN, they will get approval to join NATO and directed
appropriation USAID (that can only be used to buy "modern" american made
military equipment)
http://www.amazon.com/Prophets-War-Lockheed-Military-Industrial-ebook/dp/B0047T86BA/

also
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/03/books/corrupt-from-top-to-bottom.html?pagewanted=1

HBO made a movie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon_Wars

son-in-law 1st tour in Iraq was foot-patrol Fallujah 2004-2005, 2nd tour
was "mounted", bradley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Bradley#M2A3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Fighting_Vehicle#M3_Bradley

2007-2008 (described as worse than Fallujah, but because administration
said things were better didn't get much attention).
http://www.amazon.com/Battle-Baqubah-Killing-Our-ebook/dp/B007VBBS9I/

they had boneyard size of three football fields full of destroyed
Bradleys and Abrams M1 tanks, they were loosing so many Bradleys that
they started getting mothballed Bradleys from Desert Storm (with
incompatible/obsolete communication)

... and some related

Pentagon remains stubbornly unable to account for its hundreds of
billions (multiple trillions over the years); A celebration by the
Marine Corps of its accounting prowess turns out to have been premature,
with a discrepancy in a key audit of $800 million
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2015/08/03/17735/pentagon-remains-stubbornly-unable-account-its-billions

The Pentagon Is Still Terrible at Accounting for Your Tax Dollars; A
celebration by the Marine Corps of its accounting prowess turns out to
have been premature, with a discrepancy in a key audit of $800 million.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/03/the-pentagon-is-still-terrible-at-accounting-for-taxpayer-dollars-marine-corps-800-million-gao/

Marine Corps Can't Account for $800 Million
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2015/08/04/marine-corps-cant-account-for-800-million/

It mentions that lower level objections were run over and higher ups
signed off as accurate despite objections. In theory if this was subject
to Sarbanes-Oxley and sign-off on financial audits despite objections
... it would call for the people doing the sign-offs doing jail time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes%E2%80%93Oxley_Act

2010 CBO report was that previous decade, DOD budget was increased by
over $2T compared to baseline, $1+T for the two wars ... and $1+T that
they couldn't find anything to show for.

How Private Contractors Have Created a Shadow NSA; A new cybersecurity
elite moves between government and private practice, taking state
secrets with them (also references oil rig company that was transformed
into one of the largest defense contractors after former SECDEF and
future VP becomes CEO, including no-bid contracts in Iraq)
http://www.thenation.com/article/how-private-contractors-have-created-shadow-nsa/

above includes references to some of the events around the spreading
(private-equity & for-profit) "success of failure" culture (make more
money off series of failures)
http://www.govexec.com/excellence/management-matters/2007/04/the-success-of-failure/24107/

(note sometimes clicking govexec serves up a blank page and you have to
repeat the click)

past posts mentioning military-industrial complex
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex
perpetual war
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#perpetual.war

-- 
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New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-10 20:33 -0500
  Re: New hard drive Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-10 23:23 -0400
    Re: New hard drive Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-09-11 07:07 +0100
    Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-14 10:20 -0500
      Re: New hard drive Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-14 13:53 -0400
        Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-14 13:05 -0500
          Re: New hard drive Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-14 15:09 -0400
            Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-14 14:18 -0500
      Re: New hard drive Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-15 10:08 +0100
        Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-15 05:28 -0500
          Re: New hard drive Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-15 13:43 +0200
            Re: New hard drive Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-15 16:19 +0000
              Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-15 13:15 -0500
                Re: New hard drive Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-16 07:04 +0000
                Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-16 08:39 -0500
                Re: New hard drive Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-16 14:52 +0000
                Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-17 15:37 -0500
                Re: New hard drive scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-16 13:42 +0000
              Re: New hard drive Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-09-15 15:34 -0400
                Re: New hard drive Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-15 17:29 -0400
                Re: New hard drive Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 22:00 +0000
                Re: New hard drive Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 03:58 +0000
                Re: New hard drive "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-17 00:43 -0500
                Re: New hard drive Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 05:59 +0000
                Re: New hard drive Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 11:51 +0000
                Re: New hard drive hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 13:18 -0700
                Re: New hard drive Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-09-17 19:15 -0400
                Re: New hard drive "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-20 17:27 +1000
                Re: New hard drive hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 13:13 -0700
                Re: New hard drive Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-09-17 06:24 -0400
                Re: New hard drive Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 11:51 +0000
                Re: New hard drive Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 18:02 +0000
            Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-15 13:12 -0500
              Re: New hard drive Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 22:00 +0000
                Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-17 19:29 -0500
              Re: New hard drive "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-17 10:29 +0100
                Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-17 19:31 -0500
        Re: New hard drive Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-15 16:19 +0000
          Re: New hard drive Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-15 17:48 +0000
          Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-15 13:17 -0500
  Re: New hard drive "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-11 09:28 -0500
    Re: New hard drive scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-11 14:59 +0000
      Re: New hard drive Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-11 11:32 -0400
        Re: New hard drive Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-09-11 16:06 +0000
        Re: New hard drive scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-11 16:06 +0000
          Re: New hard drive "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-12 05:21 +1000
        Re: New hard drive "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-12 05:16 +1000
      Re: New hard drive "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-11 10:42 -0500
        Re: New hard drive scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-11 16:09 +0000
          Re: New hard drive Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-11 12:20 -0400
        Re: New hard drive "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-12 05:18 +1000
      Re: New hard drive "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-12 05:08 +1000
    Re: New hard drive "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-11 14:34 -0500
      Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-15 05:29 -0500
    Re: New hard drive terry+googleblog@tmk.com - 2015-09-11 16:05 -0700
  Re: New hard drive Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-09-11 11:55 -0400
    Re: New hard drive Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-09-11 14:42 -0300
      Re: New hard drive Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-11 16:10 -0400
        Re: New hard drive Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-11 15:07 -0700
          Re: New hard drive sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-12 15:34 -0400
            Re: New hard drive Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-12 12:56 -0700
              Re: New hard drive Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-12 13:02 -0700
    Re: New hard drive "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-11 14:39 -0500
      Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-14 10:25 -0500
    Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-14 10:22 -0500
      Re: New hard drive Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-14 13:49 -0400
        Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-14 13:07 -0500
  Re: New hard drive hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-14 11:10 -0700
    Re: New hard drive philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-09-14 14:45 -0500

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