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Re: Editor recommendation

From Randy Yates <yates@digitalsignallabs.com>
Newsgroups comp.arch.embedded
Subject Re: Editor recommendation
Organization Digital Signal Labs
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Date 2013-08-31 15:13 -0400
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Don Y <this@isnotme.com> writes:
> [...]
> Hi Randy,
> OK, so what's a "150 dpi" display?  If you're viewing an 11" tall
> sheet of paper "at full scale" (i.e., 1:1), that's ~1600 dots
> vertically.

It's 1650 dots. 

>
> Using a 4:3 monitor in landscape mode would require a resolution
> of 1600x2100 in an 18.5" diag display.  A 4:3 monitor in portrait
> mode would require a resolution of 1200x1600 in a 14" diag display.
>
> Using a 16:9 monitor in landscape mode requires a resolution of
> 1600x2850 in a 22.5" display.  In portrait mode, you'd need
> 900x1600 in a 13" display.
>
> [My math may be off -- I haven't done this calculation in a few
> years!]
>
> I.e., you want *small* displays with high resolutions.  And, that
> just barely gives you the visual resolution to determine what's
> actually on the screen!
>
> Most displays with higher resolutions 

You're overloading the word "resolution." In the printing world, which
I'll call p-resolution, it's dots per inch; in the monitor world, which
I'll call m-resolution, it's dots per orientation (vertical or
horizontal). I know you know this, just pulling in the semantics a bit.

> (i.e., *better* than these
> figures!) tend to be physically larger.  

If what you need is a p-resolution of 150 DPI or better, you're not
going to get that p-resolution on any monitor that I know of, precisely
because of this.

For example, the HP ZR30Z is 2560x1600 at a 30 inch diagonal. That is

  Lv = 30 * sin(arctan(1/1.6))
     = 15.9 inches (approx.)

  Lh = 30 * cos(arctan(1/1.6))
     = 25.44 inches (approx.)

So this gets you 

   p-resolution = 1600 / 15.9 
                = 100.6 DPI (approx.)

I know of no smaller monitors that have 2560x1600 resolution. If
they existed then you could of course come closer to 150 DPI.

So yeah, if you need that p-resolution, I guess you'll have to 
view the printed form of your documents. 

Personally I think I could live with a 30-inch monitor because of my own
unique physiology - I am near-sighted and viewing large monitors
close-up best suits me.

By the way, I bought a Lexmark C760 printer a few years' back,
a native 1200x1200 color laser. Delicious output; hellish
operating costs (~$120 per cartridge i a CMYK system)...

--Randy


> Then, you start having to
> deal with "pages" that are too large to comfortably view (unless
> you can lay the monitor *into* the desk surface -- how often do
> you read an 11" tall sheet of paper "standing straight up" on
> it's edge?
>
> So, you either get used to typesetting at a much magnified scale
> (which means you see less of the page and have a distorted view
> of the page's overall presentation) *or* fight trying to resolve
> these fine features in a *coarse* presentation... *or*, resort
> to other tricks (like colored tags) or custom tools to parse
> your documents on your behalf.

-- 
Randy Yates
Digital Signal Labs
http://www.digitalsignallabs.com

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