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Re: new embedded forth

From Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: new embedded forth
Date 2016-09-12 19:26 -0700
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rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
> I've seen this before where literally pennies determined the viability
> of a product. 

I know things are like that for very high volumes but it's got to be
less extreme for moderate ones.

>> Espressif ... use a MIPS-inspired 32-bit instruction set
> Has MIPS gone royalty free?

My hazy understanding is something like:

1) Espressif doesn't license a core, they designed it themselves.
2) It's not literally a MIPS instruction set--it just resembles MIPS
   and presumably avoids any restrictions that would get in their way.
3) The early MIPS instruction sets are in fact currently royalty-free,
   though the current ones may be encumbered.
4) Some original MIPS people were/are involved with the Espressif
   company, so there is some MIPS heritage either way.

I'm not sure of any of the above, so any combination of it might be wrong.

> I've got a CPU in an FPGA module with bluetooth

For some reason bluetooth stuff is more expensive than wifi stuff these
days.  Royalties may have something to do with it.

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new embedded forth Jean-Michel Thoorens <jeanmichel.thoorens@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 09:45 -0700
  Re: new embedded forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-09-02 13:01 -0500
    Re: new embedded forth Jean-Michel Thoorens <jeanmichel.thoorens@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 11:08 -0700
      Re: new embedded forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-09-02 13:48 -0500
  Re: new embedded forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-11 23:45 -0700
    Re: new embedded forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-09-12 09:51 -0500
      Re: new embedded forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 13:15 -0700
        Re: new embedded forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-09-12 22:46 +0200
          Re: new embedded forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 14:30 -0700
        Re: new embedded forth Jean-Michel Thoorens <jeanmichel.thoorens@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 01:11 -0700
          Re: new embedded forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 01:32 -0700
            Re: new embedded forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-09-13 11:13 +0200
              Re: new embedded forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 10:25 -0700
                Re: new embedded forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 13:55 -0400
            Re: new embedded forth Jean-Michel Thoorens <jeanmichel.thoorens@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 02:37 -0700
    Re: new embedded forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 21:39 -0400
      Re: new embedded forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 18:57 -0700
        Re: new embedded forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 22:13 -0400
          Re: new embedded forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 19:26 -0700
            Re: new embedded forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 13:46 -0400
              Re: new embedded forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 15:59 -0700
                Re: new embedded forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 19:06 -0400
                Re: new embedded forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-30 17:37 -0700
                Re: new embedded forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 10:41 -0400
                Re: new embedded forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-03 13:21 -0700
                Re: new embedded forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-30 17:50 -0700
              Re: new embedded forth Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2016-09-14 07:45 +0200
                Re: new embedded forth Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2016-09-30 15:32 +0200
      Re: new embedded forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-09-13 11:14 +0200
  Re: new embedded forth Jean-Michel Thoorens <jeanmichel.thoorens@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 04:44 -0700
    Re: new embedded forth JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2016-10-07 04:59 -0700
      Re: new embedded forth Jean-Michel Thoorens <jeanmichel.thoorens@gmail.com> - 2016-10-07 05:45 -0700
        Re: new embedded forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 10:57 -0400
          Re: new embedded forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-10-08 10:06 -0500
          Re: new embedded forth JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2016-10-08 08:16 -0700
    Re: new embedded forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-10-07 12:25 -0500

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