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Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail

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Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> writes:

> Most distros today use some variation of NetworkMismanager
> originally created by Robert Love for SuSE, or have their own
> distro-specific tool (that they're sure is better than those other
> distributions methods, but that's been common for many years).

Slack 14 came with Networkmanager and wicd.  Networkmanager won't work
unless you have a "task bar" to which it can, I'm supposing, iconify
itself.  I use X all the time but with twm window manager: no task
bar.  So I use wicd with curses in an xterm.  On my LAN I kill wicd
and let the config in rc.inet1.conf take over using static local
addresses and a cable to a pretty ancient router.  Elsewhere, I run
wicd which allows me to select from whatever cabled or wifi access is
available, ignoreing the config in /etc/rc.d/inet*.


> If your local setup has no route to the world, you should not
> declare a "GATEWAY".

That's the usual, default setup.

> If the LAN does have one, why are you mucking around...  ;-)

No connection to the world unless I've started ppp (home) or wicd
(laptop, away).  I don't recall exactly what problems I've had with
route(8) in the past.  I think maybe getting a box at home to talk to
the wireless router via wifi.  I forget.  Your remarks saved for when
the problem arises again.


> Some people prefer to use the "ip(8)" command rather than
> "route(8)"... 

Ah, another new one for me.  Jeez, the manpage looks even more
intimidating than the route(8) manpage.  But I'll give it a scrute.


> Notwithstanding the disparaging comments about NetworkMismanager, it
> often comes in handy on a laptop that is meant to operate at public
> hotspots away from home IN ADDITION TO operating on the Ethernet LAN
> at home.  Being old-fashioned (and having the root password), I prefer
> to do things "manually" (static Ethernet setup, and essentially DHCP
> for the rare occasions when the laptops are "outside".

Same, except s/NetworkMismanager/wicd/.

>>> I'm old fashioned here, and use static addressing on my lan...
> 
>> Me too.  And I have masquerade working and can do it that way.  I just
>> wanted have this dialup functionality available, too.
> 
> So you have a route to the world via the LAN, and this dialup would
> be something like a backup?

Backup in case the main desktop itself fails.  There's a "route to the
world" via the LAN if and only if the my main desktop is connected by
ppp.  I'm running Slackware 11, 2.4 kernel, a couple of really old
browsers on the main box. On a very few occasions, I need to have the
services of a much more recent browser, one that won't run with the
2.4 kernel's libs.  Annoyingly enough, even that failed recently.  The
version of Firefox distributed with the most recent Slackware release
(14.1) failed to render readably the particular data I was after.  Had
to save the page as a collection of files, find the right file, hand
it to lynx -dump to get a few lines of critical text.  Normally I
simply forego anything that has too much cute for the old browser to
render it readbly (albeit without eyecandy) but this was an unusual
case.


Tnx,
-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-12 03:03 -0300
  Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2015-08-12 20:36 +0000
    Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-13 04:19 -0300
      Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-13 21:17 +0000
        Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-15 02:26 -0300
          Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-16 00:45 +0000
            Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-16 00:43 -0300
              Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-16 20:09 +0000
            Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-16 01:41 -0300
              Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-16 20:10 +0000
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-16 22:28 -0300
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-16 22:48 -0400
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-17 03:35 -0300
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-17 03:22 -0300
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-17 23:50 +0000
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-18 16:16 -0300
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-21 03:31 +0000
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-25 01:58 -0300
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-27 02:28 +0000
                All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-03 18:53 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-04 20:00 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-09-04 21:09 +0100
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-04 23:14 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-09-05 10:08 +0100
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-05 18:08 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:  fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-06 01:31 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:  fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-06 19:17 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:   fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-17 01:26 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:   fail) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 05:53 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:    fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-17 04:02 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:    fail) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 18:02 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:     fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-18 02:05 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:    fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-17 19:14 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:    fail) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-18 01:55 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:    fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-18 21:22 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:   fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-17 19:12 +0000

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