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Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail

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Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> writes:

> "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in."

Ah, a fellow KISS fan. :-) I got started on Unix by going from CP/M at
home to hanging out, circa '89, with some folks who sat me in front of
a 21" color monitor connected to a MicroVAX or the like, (very hot,
not to mention expensive, stuff at the time, like getting out of a '59
Volkswagen and into the cockpit of the space shuttle), gave me a few
manuals and said, "Do Something interesting".  Those machines use a
Posix non-compliant wm (uwm, Ultrix Window Manager, IIRC) with no
borders, buttons or other trim.  With Linux at home, I've moved up to
twm and stuck there.

> It's only the laptops here that go walkies - and that's not all that
> common.

Same here.

> man pppd    and look at the following options:
> 
>    active-filter filter-expression
>    demand
>    holdoff n
>    idle n 
> 
> Essentially, you start pppd at boot, and it remains inactive until there
> is traffic that will need the pppd link (which then brings up the link),
> "idle" then brings the link down so many seconds after traffic
> ("controlled" by the active-filter) and keeps it off for "holdoff"
> seconds if it needs to be brought back up quickly. 

I don't do it that way.  But normally, I access the net (from home,
via ppp) with only my main box.  That's gradually changing because
there's one site -- there'll eventually be more -- for which I have to
use the recent browser on the laptop to render it readably.  Normally,
I connect, do mail, news, web etc. just from the one machine with a
modem plugged into it. (And use a very old browser, so old that it
doesn't support any of the popular attack vectors.)


>> [Modem & dialup from laptop is] Backup in case the main desktop
>> itself fails.  There's a "route to the world" via the LAN if and
>> only if the my main desktop is connected by ppp.
> 
> Gotcha!  Yeah, the only real solution there is to manually down the
> default route on the backup box when you want to use it for dial-out.

Right. All your remarks and pointers saved for lookup next time.  And
there's always a next time.  :-) I once asked, on our local Linux
mailing list, about implementing analog audio from a CD drive. Was
instructed about installing the right cable that was missing.  Did
that, all was well.  Some weeks later I was gently reproved for asking
what appeared to be the same question over again.  But it wasn't the
same.  I had bought a new internal CD drive, found and plugged in the
right cable, got no sound.  Eventually, after grovelling around the
net, found the mfgr's manual for the drive.  The physical plug for
analog audio was provided on the drive but marked on the manual's
diagram as "not implemented".  Grumble.  The fellow who had reproved
me opined that that was "not fair" by way of apology. :-)

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-12 03:03 -0300
  Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2015-08-12 20:36 +0000
    Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-13 04:19 -0300
      Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-13 21:17 +0000
        Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-15 02:26 -0300
          Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-16 00:45 +0000
            Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-16 00:43 -0300
              Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-16 20:09 +0000
            Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-16 01:41 -0300
              Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-16 20:10 +0000
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-16 22:28 -0300
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-16 22:48 -0400
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-17 03:35 -0300
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-17 03:22 -0300
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-17 23:50 +0000
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-18 16:16 -0300
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-21 03:31 +0000
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-08-25 01:58 -0300
                Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-08-27 02:28 +0000
                All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-03 18:53 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-04 20:00 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-09-04 21:09 +0100
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-04 23:14 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2015-09-05 10:08 +0100
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter: fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-05 18:08 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:  fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-06 01:31 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:  fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-06 19:17 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:   fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-17 01:26 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:   fail) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 05:53 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:    fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-17 04:02 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:    fail) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 18:02 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:     fail) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-18 02:05 -0300
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:    fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-17 19:14 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:    fail) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-18 01:55 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:    fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-18 21:22 +0000
                Re: All better now (Re: Talk to modem with USB to serial adapter:   fail) Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld.invalid> - 2015-09-17 19:12 +0000

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