Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network

From	Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Newsgroups	uk.telecom.broadband
Subject	Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network
Date	2026-05-25 10:21 +0100
Organization	Frantic
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Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> writes:

> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> On 2026/5/24 7:11:14, Tweed wrote:
>>>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On 2026/5/23 11:32:17, Tweed wrote:
>>>>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2026/5/22 8:36:0, Tweed wrote:
>>>>>>>> [] > How long ago was this? My guess it was in the days when
>>>>>>>>CGNAT was a bit of > a novelty. These days, with probably the
>>>>>>>>vast majority of consumer > connections (including mobile
>>>>>>>>phones) via CGNAT or frequently changing > dynamically allocated
>>>>>>>>routeable addresses you’d be out of business as an > email
>>>>>>>>provider if you blacklisted originating IP addresses.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have a nasty feeling that email as a whole may in the near
>>>>>>>> future start to be considered an anachronism, and those using
>>>>>>>> it start to be viewed in the same insulting/pitying way as
>>>>>>>> those who now do not possess a smartphone, or who use a
>>>>>>>> landline.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I can confirm with recently adult children, they struggle a bit
>>>>>>> with the asynchronous and somewhat more formal aspects of
>>>>>>> email. They're used to the immediacy of instragram or snapchat
>>>>>>> or family groupchats.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Once they get deeply into the world of work they will discover
>>>>>> email.  Instant messaging in its various forms works within an
>>>>>> organisation, but when you need to deal with external folk you
>>>>>> still need email, mostly. In my line of work there’s no chance
>>>>>> that email will go away.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> You may say that - but think: in the same work situations, when
>>>>> did you last send a paper letter? I'm sure the same discussions
>>>>> happened there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I _like_ email, and am not on any of the "instant" mechanisms (OK,
>>>>> I have a dumbphone that can get texts, but I might not notice them
>>>>> for ages). I _do_ get slightly odd looks when I say no, I'm not on
>>>>> instagram (or whatever) - not just "young folk", but for example
>>>>> matters relating to the old folks coffee morning. (Well, nominally
>>>>> open to all, but since it's in the middle of a weekday morning a
>>>>> young person is very rare.)
>>>> 
>>>> Email is the replacement for letters. When you deal with people in
>>>> business who are not part of your organisation and are possibly in
>>>> different time zones you need a method of communication that can be
>>>> attended to not immediately, keeps a sortable record of what is
>>>> sent and received, can have documents attached, uses common
>>>> standards (ie not some proprietary protocol) because you don’t know
>>>> what the other end is using, etc.
>>>> 
>>> I'm with you (though I remember confusion over UUcode, MIME, and I
>>> think a later protocol - initially UU was the default and you only
>>> used MIME for those you knew could handle it, now many clients don't
>>> even know what to do with UU - not to mention whether truly embedded
>>> or not); however, as Chris says, some of today's generation struggle
>>> with email.
>> 
>> Struggle yes. I’ve noticed that the younger folk agonise for ages
>> composing an email.
>
> Literal days of agony. Not even kidding.
>
>> Me, I just type a few quick lines and hit send.
>
> Me too, mostly.
>
>> Extra black marks for people who start emails with “I hope this email
>> finds you well” or similar.
>
> That's a bit harsh.

I have had so many misunderstandings because of brief ambiguous text
messages and emails, I think we should go back to the 18th centuary art
of writing long letters. In those days as the turn around time was so
long it was better to say it twice in two different ways than say it
ambiguously.

You can write formal or informal emails, just as you could with
letters. You can even use Delta Chat to sent emails with a chat
interface.

Thread

Broadband Over the Mobile Network "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-05-21 09:15 +0000
  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-21 10:41 +0100
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-05-21 10:05 +0000
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 10:16 +0000
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 15:07 +0100
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Mark Undrill <spam@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-21 11:17 +0100
  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-21 12:34 +0100
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-21 14:11 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-05-21 13:19 +0000
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-21 15:06 +0100
          Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-21 22:09 +0100
            Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-22 00:01 +0100
              Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 05:43 +0000
              Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-22 08:22 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 07:36 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-22 09:15 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-22 21:47 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 10:09 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 10:32 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-23 20:48 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 06:11 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 11:27 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 11:18 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 14:18 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network David Rance <david@SPAMOFF.invalid> - 2026-05-24 18:37 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-24 22:10 +0000
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-25 10:21 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 10:58 +0100
                Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-24 11:29 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-21 14:23 +0100
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-05-21 15:15 +0100
          Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-21 22:16 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 14:12 +0000
      Sending email from own server (was: Broadband Over the Mobile Network) Geoff Clare <geoff@clare.See-My-Signature.invalid> - 2026-05-22 13:59 +0100
        Re: Sending email from own server Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-22 14:20 +0100
          Re: Sending email from own server Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 15:23 +0000
            Re: Sending email from own server Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2026-05-22 20:03 +0100
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-05-21 19:01 +0100
  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 13:26 +0000
  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2026-05-21 15:18 +0100
  Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2026-05-30 09:29 +0000
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 13:43 +0100
    Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-05-30 15:54 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-05-30 16:01 +0100
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> - 2026-05-30 20:12 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-05-30 17:22 +0100
      Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2026-05-30 17:25 +0100
        Re: Broadband Over the Mobile Network David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2026-05-30 17:51 +0100

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