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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy?

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On 7/29/15 3:49 AM, Michael Eyd wrote:
> Am 28.07.2015 um 22:29 schrieb Frank Slootweg:
>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <mp552d$1a7$1@news.sap-ag.de>, Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de>
>>> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> Because (almost everywhere in the world) they do know upfront what type
>>>> of line they're calling.
>>>
>>> which puts mobile users at a disadvantage.
>>
>>    You keep on kicking this dead horse, despite repeatedly being told
>> that such 'disadvantage' *does not exist* for the *majority* of people
>> in the *majority* of countries.
>>
>>    I already told you several times - and you ignored it, and *silently*
>> snipped it, every time [1] - that for example in my country - The
>> Netherlands - there *is no* defacto rate differentiation between
>> fixed-to-fixed and fixed-to-mobile.
>>
>>    Since your major 'opponent' (read: the one who's still bothering) is
>> Michael Eyd, it would be interesting to hear what the situation in
>> Germany is.
>>
>>    I.e. if a German customer gets a standard fixed phone subscription,
>> does (s)he get a rate difference between fixed-to-fixed and
>> fixed-to-mobile?
>
> Yes, calls to mobile are (if not covered by an so-called all-net flatrate)
> are more expensive than to fixed-line numbers. The price difference
> decreased considerably over the years, but is still there... Take e.g. the
> cheapest plans T-Com (our former monopolist) offers: For 19€/month you
> don't get any free calls, but pay for calls to fixed-line numbers
> 2.9ct/min, while calls to any of the German mobile networks (no
> differentiation there anymore) you pay 19ct/min (all prices are Euros, not
> US-$). Obviously, you can get on-top flatrates for fixed-line numbers, for
> mobile numbers, for international calls, ..., but all of that is extra.
>
>>    With "standard", I mean the most common subscription. I.e. I'm not
>> interested in special subscription where customers can get rate
>> differentiation if they *want* it, but what they get if I just order the
>> most common subscription.
>
> These days in Germany (for new fixed-line contracts) many people choose a
> plan where (national) fixed-line calls are flat, but calls to mobile
> numbers go extra - unless people know that they'll be calling someone's
> mobile rather often. And in that case (many) people start considering doing
> such calls from their mobile, rather than from the fixed-line phone - as it
> might be cheaper.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael


Here in the US many are doing away with landlines.  Here I mostly get junk 
calls on the landline I have.  I rarely use it any more to make phone 
calls.  We keep it mostly because of inertia and as a backup in case cell 
service goes out (which has happened a couple times because of storms).


Mark

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Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-22 20:22 +0000
  Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-22 18:54 -0400
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 10:20 +1000
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 14:16 +1000
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-23 01:08 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 15:18 +1000
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 10:11 +1000
    Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-23 18:46 +0000
      Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-25 20:45 -0400
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-26 14:14 +1000
        Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-27 17:33 -0400
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 08:41 +1000
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2015-07-28 10:36 +0200
          Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-28 20:29 +0000
            Re: Who pays for a phone call to a US phone number, italy to italy? madodel ptd News <madodel@ptd.net> - 2015-07-29 13:55 -0400

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