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Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance"

Date 2026-07-30 20:15 -0400
Subject Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance"
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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On 2026-07-29 11:01 p.m., Nick Charles wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2026 at 5:57:05 PM EDT, "Brock McNuggets"
> <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2026 at 11:15:38 AM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
>> <114dg0b$133f6$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-laptop
>>>
>>>
>>> This is just great, an ARM Microsoft-brand laptop, so state-of-the-art,
>>> so cool.  Expensive, admittedly, heh.  Comes with Win11 Home, BTW.  Not
>>> Pro.  I don't get that.  A mini PC from China has a false but yet
>>> workable license for 11 Pro, but this thing is legit so it has Home.
>>> People with money who don't really know computers make a cash cow for
>>> MS, heh.
>>
>> Both the site and the product seem heavily inspired by Apple. But good...
>> competition benefits us all.
> 
> Because Windows is tanking and Mac is growing.  Thus Microsoft desperately
> wants the few remaining Surface PCs to "look like" Apple. But the problem with
> Windows PCs is - are you sitting down? - WINDOWS.  Not the PC hardware.

I concur with this. A guy on Reddit was shocked that I suggested he run 
sfc for his slow Windows PC. He replied that the installation was only 
ten days old, and I had to inform him that I get corrupted system files 
within the first day of an installation. I install the OS at 10am, 
download every application I need, update and by 7pm I run sfc and am 
not shocked that something is corrupted.

> Windows is a Dead End. Linux is also growing. How long before Dell or Asus or
> HP or Lenovo start selling PCs with Linux installed?  Dell has already
> publicly stated that the whole "Copilot PC" thing is a failure. No one is
> interested.

No one is interested, but the alternative for them is not Linux. The 
software people need is still exclusive to Windows. While that is true, 
they will continue to use Windows. Think of the software dentists and 
doctors use or the accounting software people learned while they were in 
their schools; there are no Linux versions.

> Meanwhile, Google is going to be selling Android PCs.  How much longer can
> Windows survive?

For a little bit longer. As long as the software is on Windows, and I'm 
including the software from the 90s some businesses still sometimes need 
to run, Linux is not a realistic alternative. Its best bet is state 
computers.

-- 
CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air
"Derka, derka, Muhammad jihad!"

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"Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 14:15 -0400
  Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 21:57 +0000
    Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-29 18:05 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-07-30 02:31 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:16 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 05:03 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 02:55 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 16:49 +0000
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 21:59 +0000
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 08:37 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 06:18 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 16:50 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-30 12:38 +0100
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 16:51 +0000
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 14:18 -0400
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-07-30 22:50 +0000
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 22:10 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-31 16:37 +0000
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-31 08:48 +0000
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-31 15:50 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-08-01 02:20 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-01 04:53 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "....winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2026-08-02 03:05 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2026-07-30 08:37 -0400
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 08:44 -0400
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-30 14:42 +0100
    Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-07-30 03:01 +0000
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 05:02 +0000
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 01:31 -0400
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-07-30 20:32 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 09:04 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-30 19:42 +0000
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 15:52 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 17:16 -0400
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 17:46 -0400
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-30 17:02 -0500
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 19:03 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 19:39 -0400
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-30 19:33 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-07-31 07:21 -0500
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-31 11:16 -0400
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-07-31 12:51 +0000
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-07-31 16:43 +0000
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-07-30 22:22 +0000
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-07-30 18:34 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-07-30 22:37 +0000
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-07-30 20:15 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-02 14:43 +0200
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-02 13:18 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-02 23:17 +0200
  Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-07-30 11:43 -0400
  Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 12:15 -0700
    Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 15:23 -0400
      Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 12:26 -0700
        Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 15:40 -0400
          Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 12:59 -0700
            Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 16:05 -0400
              Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 13:10 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 16:32 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-06 14:49 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 18:08 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-06 15:35 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 18:44 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-06 17:25 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-07 11:26 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-08 11:58 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-08 15:35 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-08 13:19 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-08 17:44 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-08 16:46 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-05 17:22 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 17:27 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-05 14:48 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 17:56 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-05 18:05 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 18:08 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-06 04:47 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-06 14:49 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 18:04 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-06 15:36 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-06 18:45 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-07 01:12 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-07 07:31 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-07 11:02 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-07 14:03 +0000
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-07 11:34 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-07 07:15 +0800
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-10 10:35 +0000
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-10 08:05 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-10 11:32 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-08-10 18:39 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-10 20:55 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-11 08:44 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 10:30 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 10:21 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-11 08:43 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-11 15:03 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 17:00 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-11 14:23 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 17:26 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-11 14:33 -0700
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-11 17:42 -0400
                Re: "Surface Laptop Enjoy the performance" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-08-10 13:07 -0700

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