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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked

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Subject Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked
From Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com>
References (1 earlier) <n1ji5dFrnn7U1@mid.individual.net> <69b4a123$0$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <n1jnboFsgmpU1@mid.individual.net> <69b4b599$0$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <n1kj2eF21npU1@mid.individual.net>
Date 2026-03-14 09:26 +0000

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David B. <David@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 14/03/2026 01:10, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Mar 13, 2026 at 5:10:31 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>> <n1jnboFsgmpU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 13/03/2026 23:43, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> On Mar 13, 2026 at 3:41:49 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>>>> <n1ji5dFrnn7U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13/03/2026 13:46, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> [....]
>>>>>> David,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You’re not being asked to “stop using AI” because the points are
>>>>>> irrefutable. You’re being asked to stop using it because it’s clearly
>>>>>> generating confident-sounding explanations about topics you don’t actually
>>>>>> understand. That’s not verification — it’s cargo-cult technical analysis.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Let’s untangle a few things.<SNIP>
>>> 
>>> Brock/Michael,
>>> 
>>> Since you've moved this from a technical discussion to a personal
>>> intervention,
>> 
>> This was never a technical discussion.
>> 
>>> let's be clear: we’ve been friends on Facebook for a long
>>> time, and I stood by you during your divorce. You know better than
>>> anyone that I don't act out of malice or a "vendetta."
>> 
>> I do not think you mean to cause harm -- but you are causing harm.
>>> 
>>> However, in a technical workshop, friendship is not a substitute for
>>> verification.
>>> 
>>> You dismiss corporate filings as "trivia," but as an IFA, I see them
>>> differently. Canimaan Software Ltd is a "Micro-Entity" in Edinburgh.
>>> When such a small firm—handling global security subscriptions—shows
>>> significant Director’s Loans on its balance sheet while relying on
>>> "long-term workarounds" for kernel panics (as documented in their own
>>> version history), that is a professional red flag. It isn't "harassment"
>>> to point out that a company’s financial liquidity and technical
>>> architecture are linked.
>> 
>> What has come of this?
> [SNIP]
> 
> Michael,
> 
> You asked, "What has come of this?"
> 
> What has come of it is a formal recognition that the financial and
> technical health of a security provider are inseparable. As an IFA, I
> don’t ignore a "Micro-Entity" balance sheet dominated by five-figure
> Director's Loans while the product itself relies on documented
> "workarounds" for system-level stability issues.
> 
> I have taken the appropriate professional steps to ensure that the
> financial side of this operation is reviewed by the relevant
> authorities. If there is no wrongdoing, then there is no issue. But "the
> truth will out," and users have a right to know if the company they
> trust with their system's "Root" access is as stable as its marketing
> suggests.
> 
> You call this "irrational focus." I call it professional accountability.
> While you focus on protecting the "man," I will continue to focus on
> protecting the "system."
> 
> Do you actually know what an IFA does in real life?
> 
> Here's a clue:-
> 
> An independent financial adviser or IFA can advise you on all financial
> products that they think meet your needs. They are independent and
> whole-of-market:
> Independent means they aren't acting on behalf of any particular product,
> provider or other body.Whole-of-market means they can consider various 
> financial products from
> multiple lenders.They act on behalf of you, the client, which means *the 
> advice they give you must be impartial*.
> 
> https://www.money.co.uk/guides/5-steps-to-finding-an-ifa-you-can-trust
> 
> HTH. 😅

The post sounds confident, but it mostly substitutes implication and
credentials for actual evidence. The author claims the “financial and
technical health” of a security product are inseparable, then points to a
micro-entity balance sheet and director’s loans as if that somehow proves a
security risk. That’s a pretty big leap. Small independent software
developers commonly have simple accounts and director loans—it’s normal and
not evidence of instability or wrongdoing. Likewise, mentioning
“workarounds” or “root access” without explaining a specific technical flaw
doesn’t demonstrate a real security problem.

The repeated emphasis on being an “IFA” doesn’t really help the argument
either. Independent financial advisers typically advise clients on
investments, pensions, and insurance; they don’t audit software
architecture or evaluate macOS security tooling. Invoking regulators and
explaining what an IFA does reads more like credential-waving and
escalation than a substantive critique. If there’s a real technical issue,
the productive path would be to show the actual vulnerability or flawed
behavior rather than relying on insinuation about company finances.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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  Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-03-07 05:57 +0000
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          Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 04:42 +0000
        Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 04:48 +0000
      Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-03-08 04:28 +0000
    Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-07 08:24 +0000
      Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-03-08 04:28 +0000
        Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-08 20:04 +0000
          Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 23:56 +0000
            Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-09 18:32 +0000
              Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 18:38 +0000
              Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org.invalid> - 2026-03-09 18:32 -0500
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-10 00:11 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-09 17:16 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-10 00:38 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "Lionel Tiberius Jackson Jr." <lTjjr@localmail.net> - 2026-03-09 20:56 -0400
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 20:40 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-11 11:08 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 17:58 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 16:38 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-10 21:35 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 01:40 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-11 09:27 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 14:03 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-11 14:32 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 01:43 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "Lionel Tiberius Jackson Jr." <lTjjr@localmail.net> - 2026-03-11 21:55 -0400
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 11:22 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 14:14 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 15:16 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 15:54 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 16:49 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 17:40 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 22:05 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 22:19 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 23:27 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 00:09 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 18:37 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 18:19 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-13 09:55 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 13:46 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-13 22:41 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 23:43 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 00:10 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:10 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 08:03 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 09:26 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 14:25 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 15:44 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 15:56 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 18:07 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-16 10:53 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 13:46 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 15:52 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 16:13 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 18:08 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-16 10:38 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 20:22 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-16 10:40 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 14:07 +0000
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                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "Nobody" <nobodyspecial@kinkos.net> - 2026-03-14 18:48 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 19:58 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-16 10:43 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 14:06 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-16 23:39 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Glock <glock@localhost.com> - 2026-03-14 21:15 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 14:30 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 01:25 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 01:26 +0000
      Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 05:23 +0000
        Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-08 13:11 +0000
          Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 17:51 +0000
            Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-08 20:28 +0000
              Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 21:36 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-08 22:21 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-08 16:21 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-08 23:36 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 00:26 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-03-08 17:50 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-09 18:22 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 18:39 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 00:27 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-09 20:01 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 14:37 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 22:06 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 15:13 -0700
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 23:42 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 00:02 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-09 18:48 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 19:00 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-10 22:04 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 01:38 +0000
          Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 19:58 +0000
            Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-13 22:00 +0000
              Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 23:36 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 00:16 +0000
                Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:04 +0000
      Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 18:39 +0000
        Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-13 18:52 +0000
          Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 20:22 +0000
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        Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 14:01 +0000
          Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 10:04 -0700
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      Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-11 09:43 +0000
        Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Creon <creon@creon.earth> - 2026-03-11 11:11 +0000
          Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-11 23:26 +0000
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