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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked |
| Organization | Southern Nevada Institute of Technology |
| References | <n0oub2Fm1mpU1@mid.individual.net> <n1i58aFktauU1@mid.individual.net> <69b41524$0$54857$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <n1ji5dFrnn7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| Date | 2026-03-13 23:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <69b4a123$0$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On Mar 13, 2026 at 3:41:49 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n1ji5dFrnn7U1@mid.individual.net>: > On 13/03/2026 13:46, Brock McNuggets wrote: > [....] >> David, >> >> You’re not being asked to “stop using AI” because the points are >> irrefutable. You’re being asked to stop using it because it’s clearly >> generating confident-sounding explanations about topics you don’t actually >> understand. That’s not verification — it’s cargo-cult technical analysis. >> >> Let’s untangle a few things. >> >> First, OCSP and Developer ID aren’t discoveries. They’re fundamental parts >> of the macOS security model created by Apple. Every properly signed macOS >> application participates in that chain of trust. Mentioning those terms >> doesn’t reveal anything unusual about a specific utility — it simply shows >> the software is behaving exactly the way the platform is designed to >> behave. > > Of course. > >> Second, EtreCheck isn’t “phoning home” in the conspiratorial sense you’re >> implying. The developer, Etresoft (Etresoft), has been extremely >> transparent for years about what the app does: it collects system >> diagnostic data locally and can optionally share anonymized data for >> troubleshooting. That’s normal for diagnostic utilities and has been >> publicly documented many times. > > That's correct. It DOES have a connection to my computer when I run it. What "it"? The software running on your system? How could it NOT have a "connection" to your system? What would that even mean? > >> Third, bringing up UK corporate filings and director’s loans for the >> company behind ClamXAV — Canimaan Software Ltd — isn’t “auditing the >> hardened runtime of the business.” It’s just dragging unrelated financial >> trivia into a technical discussion. UK small-company filings routinely >> include director loans; they’re common, legal, and not remotely indicative >> of security risk. > > It's an indication of possible criminal activity. Your harassment of these people is possible criminal activity. > >> So no, the issue isn’t that the “technical points are irrefutable.” The >> issue is that the points being presented don’t actually support the >> conclusions you’re drawing from them. > > That's just *your* opinion. Most folk do not trust what you say. :-( You have no counter... and immediately drop your argument and move to ad hominem. That is a sign even you know you really have no point to make. > >> Calling that “harassment” isn’t moralizing — it’s pointing out that >> repeatedly targeting a small independent developer with speculative >> accusations based on misunderstood infrastructure isn’t productive or fair. > > I haven't misunderstood anything! You absolutely have. And have been called out. Repeatedly. > >> If you want to discuss macOS security, great. There are lots of interesting >> details in the notarization and Developer ID systems. But right now you’re >> treating ordinary platform behavior as if it were a discovery, and treating >> public company filings as if they were a vulnerability report. >> >> That’s not an audit. >> >> It’s just noise. > > No, it's not. You have taken no interest in matters which have > concerned me. I have no interest in harassing ANYONE. > I even feel guilty for having recommended that you use Usenapp. > That's another suspect software from someone who hides in the shadows! > You've never shown any interest in a product which could be logging > every key which you press on your keyboard! You simply don't care, do you? I am not paranoid and filled with fear over every app. No. Nor should I be. It would be absurd to be so. And to use such a personal issue as an excuse to harass others would be wrong -- and perhaps illegal. -- It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-12 18:37 -0700
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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 00:10 +0000
Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:10 +0000
Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 08:03 +0000
Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 09:26 +0000
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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 14:30 -0700
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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 05:23 +0000
Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-08 13:11 +0000
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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 14:37 -0700
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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-09 18:48 +0000
Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 19:00 +0000
Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-10 22:04 +0000
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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-13 22:00 +0000
Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 23:36 +0000
Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-14 00:16 +0000
Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-14 01:04 +0000
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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-03-13 20:22 +0000
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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 10:04 -0700
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Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-03-11 09:43 +0000
Re: How To Protect Your Mac From Being Bricked Creon <creon@creon.earth> - 2026-03-11 11:11 +0000
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