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| From | "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.binaries.3d.poser |
| References | (9 earlier) <5ed9e16f$1@LostBBS> <5edc5919$1@LostBBS> <5edc6aae@LostBBS> <5edfde74$1@LostBBS> <YuOdneAhq7kZa0LDnZ2dnUU7-cPNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| Subject | Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! |
| Message-ID | <5ee023f0$1@LostBBS> (permalink) |
| Organization | None |
| Date | 2020-06-09 20:06 -0400 |
For me, when I'm rendering animations, fps DOES make a difference but when I'm working on a 'static' image, I mostly care about achieving something as close to photorealism as I can get. I know that graphics RAM and speed are used for both games and rendering still images. I guess it's just their marketing scheme that bugs me. It makes me want to scream, "I'm not goofing off playing games! I'm an old man trying to do some serious artwork here!!" :o) That is - unless I AM goofing off and paying a game of course. <LOL>!! "Dana Haywood" <no.way@jos> wrote in message news:YuOdneAhq7kZa0LDnZ2dnUU7-cPNnZ2d@giganews.com... > Well, Stephen, think about it. > > What is the most important thing for a gaming rig? FPS. Going 50-60 FPS is > ideal for most games, and it becomes more challenging when trying to > render more complicated geometry, textures, render engines like IRay, etc. > > Before GPU rendering became a thing, we had to rely on Memory and CPU. > Now, GPU rendering is a thing, so the more it can handle geometry, > textures, material (different than textures apparently), light, and > whatever else I see when IRay goes off, the better it performs. > > Even without GPU rendering, we relied on fast processors and high amounts > of RAM. The same is true with a gaming rig. > > So like I said earlier, A Gaming Rig and Image Producing one are not that > different. Now for servers, yea, those have different requirements, but > gaming and rendering system generally align more or less. :) > > On 6/9/2020 12:09 PM, Stephen wrote: >> BTW, I've also noticed on the NVidia site that even their highest quality >> boards are sold as great GAMING tools and the benchmarks are all geared >> to games and the number of fps they can do. I once asked them why they do >> that because I want a board for serious superior image production, not >> gaming. They just said it's the same thing and left it at that. :o/ >> I think you have to just ignore their sales pitch and go for one that >> will meet you own specifications. Rich kids who do nothing but play games >> all day must be where they make the most money so they'll just keep >> selling them that way. >> >> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:5edc6aae@LostBBS... >>> ALSO: I now have ALL items from THREE orders at Walmart.com IN HOUSE! >>> Except ONE thing. The motherboard. The seller of that Gigabyte mobo >>> cancelled it. They did NOT have one in stock. So what the F*** did you >>> SELL it to me for!@#RY()(@) ARRRGH! So till 3am I looked and looked and >>> looked. Then back at Walmart.com, ONE HIT comes up for any X570 AMD >>> chipset and RYZEN 7 3000 series cpu. One for an ASUS motherboard. I >>> kept looking though, cause of the name of the mobo. >>> ASUS - TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI). TuF Gaming. Right. I want a render >>> beest, not a game toy. Then I exasperatedly read the specs and >>> features. Ho! Its a better mobo by a good bit than the Gigabyte I was >>> so worked up over. Pushed the "PAY" button. So now I'm waiting for >>> the TuF Gamer motherboard. Yep. Sure really am. :o\ yes, everything >>> else IS here. 32gb DDR4, check! AMD Ryzen 7 3000X, check! Yeah, just >>> need the 3rd of The Main Three. I just hope this doesn't go the way of >>> that first one. If it does, me and Walmart.com are going to have some >>> ernest words about THEIR not having any parts IN STOCK. Suddenly they >>> are becoming less than useless.... >>> McG. >>> >>> On 6/6/2020 10:03 PM, Stephen wrote: >>>> I've never had any luck installing and using DSON. If I could buy a G8 >>>> figure and just install and use it like I did with V4/M4, that would be >>>> great. I do NOT want to fart around with some confusing DS to Poser >>>> bridge though. >>>> >>>> >>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:5ed9e16f$1@LostBBS... >>>>> Why in the UNIVERSE would DAZ's opinion in what POSER is able to read >>>>> directly, important even to an ANT, or something equally, dismally >>>>> removed from all things 3D ??? IT DOESN'T !!!! LOL! >>>>> They have even OFFERED to help Poser with that very thing. And S-M >>>>> adamantly refused. >>>>> >>>>> Well, I see it as a matter of survival. I LIKE what I have seen in >>>>> the Genesis 3 and 8 Figures. Though I hate DS the program, I don't >>>>> hate the CONTENT. And, about ME, DAZ3D has known this from the start. >>>>> IF DS became something that *I* personally deem USABLE, I will use it. >>>>> I keep it installed, just hate using it. Sooo. I know exactly what >>>>> G3 and G8 are like. :) And there are a lot of people that are >>>>> clamoring for POSER to be made able to load and use all the DAZ >>>>> Figures directly. >>>>> Jenn Blake blew up about it. Well, um, THAT lit a different fuse. You >>>>> reading me still, Jenn? >>>>> McG. >>>>> >>>>> On 6/4/2020 9:03 PM, Stephen wrote: >>>>>> That would go a long way to getting me to buy a DAZ figure past V4 >>>>>> but >>>>>> don't hold your breath on DAZ okaying that. :o( >>>>>> >>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:5ed6cc01$1@LostBBS... >>>>>>> Sooo that is greater use of the hardware. DS still lags severely in >>>>>>> keeping up. Same old group of DEVS, and same group of programs to >>>>>>> work on. >>>>>>> Poser. Yeah, one program, one TEAM. I hope we can kick and scream >>>>>>> and beleaguer their BOSSES into ok'ing getting the module to load DS >>>>>>> content directly. SOON. NOT DAZ SOOOOOON either. :D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/2/2020 2:58 PM, Dana Haywood wrote: >>>>>>>> It is worthwhile if an application supports it. SLI and CrossFire >>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>> nutshell: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Video card: 1 GPU, 6GB VRAM, 1000 CUDA cores. >>>>>>>> Video card: 1 GPU, 6GB VRAM, 1000 CUDA cores, >>>>>>>> SLI'd, the app will see it as 2 GPU chips, 12GB of VRAM, and 2000 >>>>>>>> CUDA >>>>>>>> cores. Meaning, it will process graphics faster. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The problem currently with Daz and IRay, it doesn't have the >>>>>>>> functionality..yet. So when it does an IRay render, it will load >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> scene on both cards and run it. If it doesn't fit on the first >>>>>>>> card, >>>>>>>> only the second card will run it. If it doesn't fit on either of >>>>>>>> them, >>>>>>>> it will do a CPU render. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6/1/2020 08:52 PM, Spamster wrote: >>>>>>>>> I don't know much about SLI, as I've never really though it was >>>>>>>>> worthwhile, so I'm not sure about how it does or does not work. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6/1/2020 10:39 PM, Dana Haywood wrote: >>>>>>>>>> That why sometime in the future I am thinking of getting another >>>>>>>>>> nvidia rtx card. To my understanding Daz Studio/Iray doesn't do >>>>>>>>>> SLI, >>>>>>>>>> but...I can dedicate it to specific cores. So..if one card bogged >>>>>>>>>> down from "Displaying"...I can have another just for rendering.:) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/2020 11:45 AM, Spamster wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Sounds great. IMO, the bottleneck in your system will be the >>>>>>>>>>> video >>>>>>>>>>> card, which is used by games and 3D apps. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/2020 12:42 PM, McGrandpa wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> That's pretty similar to this stuff I just ordered. >>>>>>>>>>>> AMD Ryzen 7 3700X & Wraith Prism cooling >>>>>>>>>>>> HyperX Fury 32GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 DIMM (Kit of 2) Black >>>>>>>>>>>> Gigabyte AMD AM4 X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI Motherboard (I demand >>>>>>>>>>>> SIX >>>>>>>>>>>> SATA ports dammit! This is THE one that I found that could be >>>>>>>>>>>> sent >>>>>>>>>>>> to me.) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Neither of our CPU's has onboard graphics. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Both our CPU's have some serious ass kickery potential! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 32 gigs of DDR4 is nothing to sneeze at, not when I have been >>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>> 8 gigs of DDR2 (PC800) RAM for 12 years! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will simply add my existing case, power supply, handful of >>>>>>>>>>>> SSDs >>>>>>>>>>>> and the BluRay burner, and the old Video card. BFG built it >>>>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>>>> man. Real good! Its still kicking butt! I bet this will perk >>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>> my gaming too, as well as all the 3D stuff :oD >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The CPU arrives this Friday, then the RAM on Tuesday the 9th, >>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>> the mobo Monday the 15th. In the meantime, I should start >>>>>>>>>>>> downloading all the drivers and utilities I'll be needing. >>>>>>>>>>>> Well >>>>>>>>>>>> the motherboard should come with disk(s). When it starts up, >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> will be the first time all these SSD's and USB devices get to >>>>>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>>> at full speed! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But, we'll see, soon enough! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> McG. :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/1/2020 9:15 AM, Stephen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> I know you said you want to keep your old case but one thing I >>>>>>>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> has made computing nicer for me is a new case by a company >>>>>>>>>>>>> called "Be >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quiet", and it really is. It actually took me a while to get >>>>>>>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>>>>>>> to it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kept thinking it had shut down when I wasn't looking directly >>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>> it. :o) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Other than that, here's my system: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing spectacular really... >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:5ed43956$1@LostBBS... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it is of computer parts for building myself a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rig. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>>> even put it inside this old case, so it will fool anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ride >>>>>>>>>>>>>> me about the spending of my money. Yeah I got relatives here >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really that way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking Ryzen 7 octal core, a gigabyte mobo "ultra >>>>>>>>>>>>>> durable" like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this 12 year old one. I do not need or want 'SLI' or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Crossfire'. Just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a single PCIe x16 slot, some other little PCIe slots. And at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *LEAST* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 64gigs of system RAM! And will I need a different power >>>>>>>>>>>>>> supply? Or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will the 750W single 12v rail one do well? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So anyway, thought I'd bounce ideas around with you folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> snowball up! :) Thanks in advance, too guys! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> McG. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >
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Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-05-31 16:18 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-01 01:07 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-05-31 20:58 -0400
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Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-01 10:47 -0500
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Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-01 21:06 -0500
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Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-04 21:04 -0400
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Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-04 08:29 -0500
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Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-01 23:50 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-01 23:41 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-02 05:07 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-02 12:40 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-01 19:39 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-01 23:52 -0400
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Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-02 16:59 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-02 16:52 -0700
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Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-04 22:03 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-05 01:07 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-06 23:03 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-06 22:49 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-06 23:18 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-06 21:54 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-07 02:23 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-07 03:59 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-07 07:34 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-07 05:48 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-07 05:51 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-07 10:38 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-07 10:36 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-07 11:59 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-07 04:04 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-07 05:33 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-07 09:41 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-09 14:55 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-16 10:10 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-09 15:09 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-09 13:52 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-09 20:06 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-09 17:16 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-09 20:48 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-09 23:13 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-09 21:37 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-10 08:48 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-16 10:12 -0500
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Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-11 20:21 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-16 10:15 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! janhaltn@newsguy.com - 2020-06-11 15:54 -0400
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