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| Subject | Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! |
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| From | McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> |
| Message-ID | <5ed6cb1d$1@LostBBS> (permalink) |
| Organization | None |
| Date | 2020-06-02 16:56 -0500 |
I have run SLI on three machines, using two different slot types. AGP 8X and PCIe x16, the AGP had EVGA 6800GTS cards in SLI on a Pentium IV mobo and XP Pro x64. The PCIe was a AMD X2 4800+ with 7800GTX in SLI under XP Pro x64. Running SLI was an absolute bitch of bullshit, to put it frankly and honestly. I disassembled that mess after seeing how USELESS that really, actually, was. That was back in my early days in here, btw, Dana. Since that time, SLI has 'matured' a bit, probably even works OK, and might even be useful for things other than accelerating the crap out of games. But you won't catch this old man blowing money on it chasing someone elses dream for faster rendering in real time. I see what you're saying about DAZ and their truckload of shitty coding. The way DAZ pushes the whole IRay thing you'd almost expect them to actually have something useful WORKING. They do not. I'm neither stupid or ignorant in the Tech stuff, Dana. Partly self taught, and partly in classroom environment and regimen too. I am not going to profess to be as learned as you in any field. Just want to stand clear between the two of us, ok? In practicing of percentages of amounts of hardware vs the return on that investment of the hardware, SLI is still crap. You use 100% more hardware for a bare 16% return in performance. I won't do that. Better results building a 2nd complete single card system and making it a render cow. 30% gain over the SLI method. BUT, in what WAY do I see that increase? Just faster renders for mediocre scenes? The thing comes down to IF you WANT to mess with it, play with it, and get the actual performance numbers up to YOUR expectations, then that is way cool. Personally I just don't estimate enough value in the process for ME to bother with it. THAT is why I don't mess around with SLI anymore. Pretty simple, actually! :) BTW-the 8800GTX has a grand total of 128 CUDA cores. EEEW! LACKING! I figure to get a new vid card later in the year.. :) and more RAM :D But, the 95W RYZEN 7 3700X octal core 16 thread CPU should be OK for a spell. :D :D McG. On 6/2/2020 2:58 PM, Dana Haywood wrote: > It is worthwhile if an application supports it. SLI and CrossFire in a > nutshell: > > Video card: 1 GPU, 6GB VRAM, 1000 CUDA cores. > Video card: 1 GPU, 6GB VRAM, 1000 CUDA cores, > SLI'd, the app will see it as 2 GPU chips, 12GB of VRAM, and 2000 CUDA > cores. Meaning, it will process graphics faster. > > The problem currently with Daz and IRay, it doesn't have the > functionality..yet. So when it does an IRay render, it will load the > scene on both cards and run it. If it doesn't fit on the first card, > only the second card will run it. If it doesn't fit on either of them, > it will do a CPU render. > > On 6/1/2020 08:52 PM, Spamster wrote: >> I don't know much about SLI, as I've never really though it was >> worthwhile, so I'm not sure about how it does or does not work. >> >> On 6/1/2020 10:39 PM, Dana Haywood wrote: >>> That why sometime in the future I am thinking of getting another >>> nvidia rtx card. To my understanding Daz Studio/Iray doesn't do SLI, >>> but...I can dedicate it to specific cores. So..if one card bogged >>> down from "Displaying"...I can have another just for rendering.:) >>> >>> On 6/1/2020 11:45 AM, Spamster wrote: >>>> Sounds great. IMO, the bottleneck in your system will be the video >>>> card, which is used by games and 3D apps. >>>> >>>> On 6/1/2020 12:42 PM, McGrandpa wrote: >>>>> That's pretty similar to this stuff I just ordered. >>>>> AMD Ryzen 7 3700X & Wraith Prism cooling >>>>> HyperX Fury 32GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 DIMM (Kit of 2) Black >>>>> Gigabyte AMD AM4 X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI Motherboard (I demand SIX >>>>> SATA ports dammit! This is THE one that I found that could be sent >>>>> to me.) >>>>> >>>>> Neither of our CPU's has onboard graphics. >>>>> >>>>> Both our CPU's have some serious ass kickery potential! >>>>> >>>>> 32 gigs of DDR4 is nothing to sneeze at, not when I have been using >>>>> 8 gigs of DDR2 (PC800) RAM for 12 years! >>>>> >>>>> I will simply add my existing case, power supply, handful of SSDs >>>>> and the BluRay burner, and the old Video card. BFG built it good >>>>> man. Real good! Its still kicking butt! I bet this will perk up >>>>> my gaming too, as well as all the 3D stuff :oD >>>>> >>>>> The CPU arrives this Friday, then the RAM on Tuesday the 9th, then >>>>> the mobo Monday the 15th. In the meantime, I should start >>>>> downloading all the drivers and utilities I'll be needing. Well >>>>> the motherboard should come with disk(s). When it starts up, it >>>>> will be the first time all these SSD's and USB devices get to run >>>>> at full speed! >>>>> >>>>> But, we'll see, soon enough! > > >>>>> >>>>> McG. :) >>>>> >>>>> On 6/1/2020 9:15 AM, Stephen wrote: >>>>>> I know you said you want to keep your old case but one thing I got >>>>>> that >>>>>> has made computing nicer for me is a new case by a company called "Be >>>>>> Quiet", and it really is. It actually took me a while to get used >>>>>> to it. >>>>>> Kept thinking it had shut down when I wasn't looking directly at >>>>>> it. :o) >>>>>> >>>>>> Other than that, here's my system: >>>>>> Nothing spectacular really... >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:5ed43956$1@LostBBS... >>>>>>> because it is of computer parts for building myself a new rig. I >>>>>>> might >>>>>>> even put it inside this old case, so it will fool anyone wanting >>>>>>> to ride >>>>>>> me about the spending of my money. Yeah I got relatives here >>>>>>> that are >>>>>>> really that way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was thinking Ryzen 7 octal core, a gigabyte mobo "ultra >>>>>>> durable" like >>>>>>> this 12 year old one. I do not need or want 'SLI' or >>>>>>> 'Crossfire'. Just >>>>>>> a single PCIe x16 slot, some other little PCIe slots. And at >>>>>>> *LEAST* >>>>>>> 64gigs of system RAM! And will I need a different power >>>>>>> supply? Or >>>>>>> will the 750W single 12v rail one do well? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So anyway, thought I'd bounce ideas around with you folks, see >>>>>>> what we >>>>>>> snowball up! :) Thanks in advance, too guys! >>>>>>> McG. >>> >
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ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-05-31 18:10 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-05-31 16:18 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-01 01:07 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-05-31 20:58 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-01 01:10 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-01 10:47 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-01 11:42 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-01 14:45 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-01 21:06 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-04 08:28 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-04 21:04 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-05 00:57 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-04 08:29 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-01 21:26 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-01 23:50 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-01 23:41 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-02 05:07 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-02 12:40 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-01 19:39 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-01 23:52 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-02 12:58 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-02 17:35 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-02 16:56 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-02 16:59 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-02 16:52 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-02 20:45 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-02 20:46 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-04 22:03 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-05 01:07 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-06 23:03 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-06 22:49 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-06 23:18 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-06 21:54 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-07 02:23 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-07 03:59 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-07 07:34 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-07 05:48 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-07 05:51 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-07 10:38 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-07 10:36 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-07 11:59 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Spamster <user@domain.com> - 2020-06-07 04:04 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-07 05:33 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-07 09:41 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-09 14:55 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-16 10:10 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-09 15:09 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-09 13:52 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-09 20:06 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-09 17:16 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! "Stephen" <sbriggs99@gmail.com> - 2020-06-09 20:48 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-09 23:13 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! Dana Haywood <no.way@jos> - 2020-06-09 21:37 -0700
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-10 08:48 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-16 10:12 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! janhaltn@newsguy.com - 2020-06-11 15:44 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-11 20:21 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-16 10:15 -0500
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! janhaltn@newsguy.com - 2020-06-11 15:54 -0400
Re: ok, I am actually making a list, and checking it dozens of times! McGrandpa <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> - 2020-06-11 20:22 -0500
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