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| From | usenet@only.tnx (Questor) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: CS instead of math? |
| Organization | ask the NSA |
| Message-ID | <57455187.10218673@nntp2.rawbw.com> (permalink) |
| References | <573fb25c.33979790@nntp2.rawbw.com> <0c7d2fa2-021e-4ae1-b6d6-bc352dfa2a76@googlegroups.com> <nhs1ca$cav$1@dont-email.me> <MPG.31ab605183b7e88e98a1c0@news.eternal-september.org> |
| Date | 2016-05-25 07:18 +0000 |
On Sun, 22 May 2016 07:21:41 -0400, "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >In article <nhs1ca$cav$1@dont-email.me>, no.spam@thank.you.invalid >says... >> >> "bert" <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:0c7d2fa2-021e-4ae1-b6d6-bc352dfa2a76@googlegroups.com... >> > On Saturday, 21 May 2016 01:55:28 UTC+1, Questor wrote: >> >> Should high school CS coursework be permitted as a substitute >> >> for mathematics in college entrance requirements? Discuss. >> > >> > People who know something about CS, but not very much, usually >> > think that CS is predominantly mathematical. People who know >> > rather more are aware that CS skills are much more akin to >> > language skills (especially classical) than to math skills. >> >> Perhaps logical skills expressed in the quasi-languages used to >> program computers? > >The thing is, university math is all about proving theorems, not about >solving problems. It's not aimed at anything practical--there's a >separate area, "applied math" that is often taught by physics and >engineering departments as a reaction to the refusal of mathematics >departments to teach problem-solving skills. Utter bilge, and wrong in so many ways, it's hard to know where to start. Yes, there is "applied" and "pure" math. But it's wrong to say that pure math is all about proving theorems, or that it isn't about solving problems, More accurately, the problems of concern in pure math are of a different class those in applied math. I was a pure math major, and I had to leave my field of study in large part because classes such as topology and advanced number theory at my college were cancelled due to insufficient enrollment. That school no longer offers a degree in mathematics. Courses in basic calculus, differential equations, statistics, and linear algebra are still offered, and as they are in most other colleges, they are taught by the mathematics department. Disdain for pure math only demonstrates an ignorance of mathematical history. Prime numbers, factoring, and divisability were all studied by number theorists for hundreds of years before their modern-day application to cryptography. The mathematics of complex numbers, matrices, and quaternons were developed before any practical applications were discovered. It is a bit broad to say that the pure math of today is the applied math of tomorrow, but that has happened repeatedly throughout history.
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CS instead of math? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-05-21 00:57 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 22:13 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-21 11:39 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2016-05-21 13:23 -0700
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-21 22:36 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-24 18:00 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-24 20:27 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-05-25 06:56 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-25 07:42 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-25 09:39 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-25 09:37 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-05-25 13:05 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 07:07 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@Last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-26 13:34 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-26 14:02 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 19:46 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-26 19:17 -0500
Re: CS instead of math? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-27 06:56 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 07:26 -0500
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-25 14:40 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-25 16:19 -0300
Re: CS instead of math? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-25 16:15 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-25 22:29 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-25 21:19 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-26 16:34 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 07:04 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-26 13:28 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-26 14:06 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-26 18:57 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-26 18:19 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-26 18:35 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2016-05-26 22:05 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-27 15:33 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-27 15:40 -0300
Re: CS instead of math? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-26 14:43 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 11:03 -0500
Re: CS instead of math? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-26 16:27 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-26 17:52 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-26 16:22 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-05-31 17:27 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-31 20:06 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 21:08 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-01 07:17 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 05:31 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-01 11:56 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-06-01 16:00 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-01 17:15 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-01 19:28 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-01 17:42 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-01 13:03 -0700
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 17:05 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-01 12:48 -0700
Re: CS instead of math? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-01 17:34 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-02 07:50 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-02 10:37 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-02 12:33 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-02 12:08 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-02 08:17 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Andy Burns <feb2017-usenet@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-06-02 09:49 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-02 12:09 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-03 13:16 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-02 12:09 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Andy Burns <feb2017-usenet@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-06-02 14:09 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Andy Burns <feb2017-usenet@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-06-02 14:12 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-02 19:44 -0700
Re: CS instead of math? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-03 13:16 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-02 15:02 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-02 16:44 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-02 16:43 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-02 16:42 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-02 16:41 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-02 22:18 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-01 17:42 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-01 22:03 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-01 12:47 -0700
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 20:58 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-01 07:29 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-01 11:59 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 06:48 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-01 12:41 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 17:04 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-02 07:59 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-02 08:18 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 19:53 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-01 12:15 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-01 17:42 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-01 13:51 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-05-22 11:27 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 07:21 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-22 13:15 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 09:53 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-05-25 07:18 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-25 09:42 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-25 13:11 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-25 16:15 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-25 22:31 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-26 11:23 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-26 11:37 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-05-26 17:56 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-26 16:36 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 19:51 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-25 07:43 -0500
Re: CS instead of math? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-05-26 17:55 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 07:14 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-05-27 17:40 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 18:46 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-05-31 17:28 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 16:09 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-31 21:07 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-01 08:58 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 05:48 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-01 12:06 +0200
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 06:46 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-06-03 16:05 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 20:49 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-06-04 22:29 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-01 12:27 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 17:07 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-02 08:12 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 19:56 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-03 09:17 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-01 13:20 -0700
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-01 17:10 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-06-02 17:58 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-06-02 13:57 -0500
Re: CS instead of math? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-06-02 17:43 -0300
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 20:08 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-06-02 17:58 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-02 20:05 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-03 10:38 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-03 11:41 +0100
Re: CS instead of math? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-03 13:16 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-06-09 05:49 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 19:58 -0400
Re: CS instead of math? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-06-17 03:35 +0000
Re: CS instead of math? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-02 19:47 -0700
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