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Re: Firefox changed IFRAME behaviour - I need a remedy??

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: Firefox changed IFRAME behaviour - I need a remedy??
Date 2019-08-09 12:48 +0200
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
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Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:

> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-5, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> wrote:
>> Michael Haufe (TNO) wrote:
>> > You've defined "sufficient" as a function of not caring or as a
>> > property of some alternative language. This is not even wrong [1]
>> Nonsense.  What is deemed “sufficient” obviously means different things
>> for different people.
> 
> Read your own damned words:
> 
> On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 6:48:40 AM UTC-5, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> wrote:
>> But that is merely your *opinion*.  Apparently more people think that the
>> current ECMAScript type system is sufficient than not, either because
>> they do not care; because they are using ECMAScript implementations like
>> Dart, TypeScript, and Flow that have static type-checking natively; or

Your point being?
 
> Anyway, onto more foot-in-mouth:
> 
>> >> > 2. If you're using a superset or an alternative language for your
>> >> > medium of expression then you've admitted an insufficiency.
>> >> 
>> >> Fallacy: Affirming the antecedent.
>> > 
>> > Modus Ponens is an inference rule, not a fallacy. You stated the
>> > proposition, I stated the implication.
>> This was not /modus ponens/.
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_antecedent>
> <https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Affirming+the+antecedent>
> 
> You were saying?

Ah yes, I meant *the fallacy* instead, affirming the _consequent_.

>> >> > Either your language can represent and enforce your domain or
>> >> > discourse, or it can't.
>> >> Fallacy: False dilemma.
>> > You can't be half pregnant nor half stupid. If you think this is not a
>> > binary choice, present another.
>> 
>> Something can be satisfactory or sufficient (the two words are
>> synonymous) in one aspect, but not in another; and it is also possible
>> that it can be that for one person, but not another.
> 
> In other words meaningless as a term.

Not at all.

> That's why I gave an explicit definition.

You gave *your* definition *of* what would be sufficient.  Do you see the 
difference?

> Responding to my definition by saying: "But it can mean something else"

I did NOT say that.

> is just noise,

No.

> especially when no alternative definition is provided.

Irrelevant.
 
>> >> > Also, since when is Dart an ECMAScript implementation?
>> >> 
>> >> Apparently it is not, and the author of the cited article has confused
>> >> the fact that it is also an Ecma standard with the idea that it were
>> >> also an ECMAScript implementation.
>> >> 
>> >> <https://dart.dev/guides/language/specifications/DartLangSpec-v2.2.pdf>
>> > 
>> > ...and you did not do your due diligence before using it as reference.
>> 
>> I said “apparently”.
> 
> You shifted the blame.

Not at all.
 
Given your attitude, there is no point to continue discussing from here.

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                OT: Re: Firefox changed IFRAME behaviour - I need a remedy?? dr.j.r.stockton@gmail.com - 2019-08-03 05:18 -0700
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                Re: Firefox changed IFRAME behaviour - I need a remedy?? "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2019-08-05 16:51 -0700
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                Re: Firefox changed IFRAME behaviour - I need a remedy?? "Michael Haufe (TNO)" <tno@thenewobjective.com> - 2019-08-08 13:16 -0700
                Re: Firefox changed IFRAME behaviour - I need a remedy?? Martin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID> - 2019-08-08 23:57 -0600
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