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| From | stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: Offline compilation of Forth |
| Message-ID | <510e5208.767967805@192.168.0.50> (permalink) |
| References | <ke5otq$92o$1@oravannahka.helsinki.fi> <5106a980.266061561@192.168.0.50> <op.wrxe2qndsu5d0p@david> |
| Date | 2013-02-03 12:11 +0000 |
On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:50:40 -0000, "Peter Knaggs" <pjk@bcs.org.uk> wrote: >On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:19:56 -0000, Stephen Pelc <stephenXXX@mpeforth.com> >wrote: >> >> MPE and Forth Inc worked together on a large Forth project, and >> produced a set of proposals for cross-compiled Forths. The master >> copies are usually on the Forth Inc web site. They were written by >> Elizabeth Rather of Forth Inc. My copies are on the MPE web site: >> http://www.mpeforth.com/arena/XCtext5.PDF >> http://www.mpeforth.com/arena/XCapp5.PDF > >Yet, when we attempted to adopt these documents into the Forth 200x >standard both MPE and Forth Inc., said "no, no, no, we would like to >rewrite it first". Thus the proposed Forth 2012 document contains only a >passing reference to cross-compiling, which, true be told, could easily be >removed without any detrimental affect. (2.1 Definitions of terms, A.3.4 >The Forth text interpreter and A.5 Compliance and labeling.) When the cross-compiler documents were first written, both the MPE and Forth Inc compilers used similar implementation techniques. Since that time I have found or designed cross-compiler architectures for which the proposed notation would be unnatural. In addition, over the 15 years FI and MPE probably agree on the meaning of the HOST and INTERPRETER scopes, but not on the COMPILER scope. Rewriting the documents to satisfy bothe FI and MPE will take a while without considering other people with cross compilers. Stephen -- Stephen Pelc, stephenXXX@mpeforth.com MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd - More Real, Less Time 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England tel: +44 (0)23 8063 1441, fax: +44 (0)23 8033 9691 web: http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads
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Re: Offline compilation of Forth stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-01-28 17:19 +0000
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Re: Offline compilation of Forth albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-01-31 13:32 +0000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-01-31 08:27 -1000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2013-02-01 10:23 +1100
Re: Offline compilation of Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-01-31 13:53 -1000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-02-01 03:17 +0000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-01-31 18:43 -1000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-02-01 08:45 -0800
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Re: Offline compilation of Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-02-01 08:55 -0800
Re: Offline compilation of Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-02-01 09:18 -1000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2013-02-01 13:04 -0800
Re: Offline compilation of Forth "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2013-02-03 11:20 +1100
Re: Offline compilation of Forth stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-02-03 12:20 +0000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-02-03 07:22 -0800
Re: Offline compilation of Forth stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-02-03 17:54 +0000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-02-03 10:17 -0800
Re: Offline compilation of Forth albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-02-03 19:33 +0000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-02-03 11:53 -0800
Re: Offline compilation of Forth Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2013-02-04 00:59 +0100
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Re: Offline compilation of Forth "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2013-02-14 21:02 -0800
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Re: Offline compilation of Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-02-03 08:26 -1000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2013-02-05 13:04 +1100
Re: Offline compilation of Forth stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-02-05 10:33 +0000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-02-05 08:56 -1000
Re: Offline compilation of Forth "Ed" <invalid@nospam.com> - 2013-02-08 02:07 +1100
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