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Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7

Date 2012-02-06 17:19 -0500
From Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage, alt.windows7.general
Subject Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7
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On 04/02/2012 7:30 PM, Paul wrote:
> Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> On 02/04/2012 02:56 AM, Paul wrote:
>>> Use PTEDIT32 and get the partition type fields ?
>>> If run in Win7, use Run As Administrator, or you might see an "Error 5".
>>>
>>> ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/tools/pq/utilities/PTEDIT32.zip
>>>
>>
>> Ah great, this worked thanks! The 4 partitions were type respectively:
>> 27, 07, 17, and 17.
>>
>> Type 27 is listed as a PQservice partition, which is either FAT32 or
>> NTFS (it is NTFS in this case). It's apparently used by Acer and other
>> OEMs as a hidden rescue partition.
>>
>> Type 07 is standard NTFS (it can also be HPFS, and exFAT).
>>
>> Type 17 is listed as a Hidden IFS, e.g. possibly HPFS.
>>
>> http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html
>>
>
> I'd bet they were all NTFS, given the situation.

It's probable, but when I used the command-line based Windows util, 
diskpart.exe (which I assume is more powerful than the graphical Disk 
Management utility), it couldn't recognize the filesystem on the Type 17 
partitions. I did recognize the filesystem on the type 27 partition, 
even though that's also considered a hidden NTFS. And of course, it 
recognized the filesystem on the type 07 partition, which is a 
completely unhidden standard partition.

> I'm kinda curious, whether you could make an Extended partition (leaving
> room for three primaries), then shift some of that stuff into logical
> partitions ? If the small 1.4GB partition is what Windows 7 boots from,
> perhaps C: can actually be a logical. Then, it's a question of whether
> one of those hidden partitions can be moved into a logical as well. Perhaps
> you can free up enough primaries, to end up with a spare you can use for
> Linux. (The Toshiba software might not be too happy about that though, if
> you ever need to restore to factory config - some restore packages insist
> on the same partition scheme as was there originally, before they'll run.)

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but the only thing that seems to be 
able to read that partition is Toshiba`s own disk imaging utility. I 
suppose I could read it raw with the Unix/Linux-based DD utility, but 
then I need to clear off this partition to even get Unix on this 
machine. Lotsa catch-22's.

> As for the idea of a separate VSS Cache partition, I thought that was only
> supported on server OSes. I wanted to do that (move the VSS Cache stuff
> off C:), but when I read up on it, I got the impression Windows 7 desktop
> didn't include code to do it.

Which just goes to show how ludicrous the Toshiba tech's claim that this 
is a VSS partition is. Besides, a 24GB partition seems awfully large for 
a VSS partition, doesn't it? The only thing I've seen that uses the VSS 
system regularly is my backup/imaging program (in my case it's Macrium 
Reflect, but it could be Acronis TrueImage, or whatever). During the 
time that the imager is working I doubt you're going to get 1GB of 
changes happening in the background, let alone 24GB!

	Yousuf Khan

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New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-03 14:52 -0500
  Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> - 2012-02-03 15:12 -0500
  Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2012-02-03 21:21 +0000
    Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-03 22:50 -0500
      Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-04 17:38 +1100
        Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-04 17:30 -0500
      Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2012-02-04 02:56 -0500
        Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-04 17:48 -0500
          Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2012-02-04 19:30 -0500
            Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-06 17:19 -0500
              Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2012-02-07 03:36 +0000
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-07 09:43 -0500
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2012-02-07 11:39 -0500
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2012-02-07 17:56 +0000
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-08 23:52 -0500
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2012-02-09 08:14 +0000
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-09 14:15 -0500
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-10 08:25 +1100
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-10 14:31 -0500
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 a1pcfixer <a1pcfixer@comcast.net> - 2012-02-10 14:37 -0600
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 10:02 +1100
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 AndyHancock <andymhancock@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 11:05 -0800
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 07:19 +1100
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2012-02-09 08:26 +0000
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-09 20:20 +1100
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2012-02-10 14:33 -0500
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 10:05 +1100
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2012-02-09 09:40 -0500
                Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2012-02-08 07:02 +1100
  Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> - 2012-02-03 18:01 -0800
    Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> - 2012-02-03 18:04 -0800
    Re: New Toshiba laptop with Windows 7 a1pcfixer <a1pcfixer@comcast.net> - 2012-02-03 21:42 -0600

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