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Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.software.firefox, comp.editors
Subject Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?
Date 2025-01-16 23:03 +0100
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On 2025-01-16 17:08, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 1/16/2025 9:05 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-01-15 15:04, Newyana2 wrote:
>>>      I just tried Vim for the
>>> first time. It looks like a relic from 1980, without even support for
>>> non-fixed-width fonts. Really? That's your favorite editor? Few people
>>> actually hand-code HTML anymore, but there must still be decent
>>> editors around.
>>
>> Vim is certainly ancient (it is a clone of 'vi'), but it is actively 
>> developed. It is designed for Linux/Unix (all linuxes and unixes have 
>> it by default), and it has tons of features, but you have to be 
>> accustomed to it in order to profit from them.
>>
>> It is a plain text editor, not a word processor. It makes no use of 
>> proportional fonts, that would be ridiculous. Many programmers use and 
>> love it, and will have you shot if you dare criticizing it :-P
>>
> 
>     Indeed. People can be quite irrational in their attachment to
> the past, like a man who insists on making a campfire to cook
> his dinner because "that's how we did it growing up". But it
> gets more irrational when people make excuses to claim that
> their campfire works better than a stove. The Internet is loaded
> with such editors, that are deliberately designed not to have
> any conveniences. In fact, I've noticed a new fashion of white
> on black GUI, trying to make all windows look like console. But
> I don't know if it's the old men or the kids who are promoting
> that fad. (My own cmd.exe is set to a white window with dark
> brown text. There's no actual reason that it needs to look like
> a DOS screen out of 1990.)
> 
>     Forcing only fixed-width fonts, though, is something I've never
> seen before. 

Coding has to be done with monospace fonts. If you are not, then you are 
doing it wrong™.

> I use Notepad for plain text editing and my own
> editor for HTML. In both I use Verdana because it's clear for
> reading and wide enough to easily see typos. Neither plain text
> nor code requires fixed-width.
> 
>    I'm imaging two cranky old men. One proclaims that he will
> only eat food from a campfire. The other teases him for using
> matches instead of rubbing sticks together.
> 
>     None of this has anything to do with actually coding HTML,
> which would make sense to do in an editor designed for the job.
> Arlen is talking about writing automations in gvim to convert
> UTF-8 to ANSI text, or writing BAT files to automate editing a
> simple HTML file. So our two campfire buddies are not even
> actually cooking their dinner. They just like to feel rustic. :)

You can dislike vim, but there are millions of happy vi(m) users, 
because it is actually very powerful for plain text tasks like coding. 
Many of those millions are actually kids.

And no, I am not a vim user. I some times *have* to use it, though, so I 
know the minimal.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-15 09:20 +0000
  Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-15 11:42 +0100
    Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-15 11:28 +0000
      Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-15 13:35 +0100
        Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-15 18:10 +0000
          Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-15 22:15 +0100
            Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-01-16 14:29 +0100
      Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 13:36 +0100
        Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-15 18:10 +0000
          Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 23:08 +0100
            Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-17 04:28 +0000
              Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-17 10:03 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-17 18:37 +0000
              Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 14:33 +0100
  Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 09:04 -0500
    Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-15 18:09 +0000
      Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 13:49 -0500
        Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-15 20:03 +0000
          Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 16:00 -0500
            Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-16 02:16 +0000
        Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-18 06:47 +0000
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            Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 15:25 +0100
              Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-18 13:55 -0500
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-01-18 20:15 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 21:19 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-18 20:55 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:29 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:44 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-19 03:50 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-19 03:56 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-19 09:43 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-19 14:16 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-19 21:27 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-01-22 17:57 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-19 08:18 -0500
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-20 01:13 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-20 01:15 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-20 14:00 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-21 04:48 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-21 13:28 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-21 08:39 -0500
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-21 14:00 +0000
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                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:33 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-18 20:54 +0000
            Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-18 20:50 +0000
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                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-19 21:16 +0000
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                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-23 08:20 -0500
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                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-23 22:18 +0000
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                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-23 23:35 +0000
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                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-24 00:48 +0000
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                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2025-01-24 00:49 +0100
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-24 10:40 +0100
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-24 18:03 +0000
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-24 18:14 +0000
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-25 14:22 +0100
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:39 +0100
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-25 17:48 +0100
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-23 23:46 +0000
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      Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-16 11:08 -0500
        Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 23:03 +0100
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