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Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?

From Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.software.firefox, comp.editors
Subject Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?
Date 2025-01-22 11:48 +0100
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On 22.01.2025 01:11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 07:41:49 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>> On 21.01.2025 05:47, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 09:26:04 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> 
>> Concerning Vim you can read it supports: "scripting languages (both
>> native and through alternative scripting interpreters such as Perl,
>> Python, Ruby, Tcl, etc.) including support for plugins". - Sounds
>> extremely flexible and powerful to me.
> 
> Which of those languages can be used to write “plugins”? My feeling is, 
> none of them.

Frankly, I can't tell since, as I said, it was never necessary (for me)
to use plugins and even less to write plugins. (I was merely quoting. -
If you have, beyond your feeling, concrete evidence that the quote from
Wikipedia is wrong/misinformation your input is certainly appreciated.)

> 
>> [*] I recall someone in Usenet - it might even have been you? - showed
>> some Lisp-like code (15-20 lines, or so) for Emacs to support some new
>> function in Emacs. Vim supported that already natively.
> 
> Was it the function to do word counts in HTML files?

As you may derive from my formulation above, I don't remember whether
it was you and what specifically it was about. (I don't think, though,
that it was about a HTML-word count.) - I don't think it's important
who or what specifically it was; sometimes people feel the need to post
own solutions for specific features/requirements. (Not only concerning
editors, BTW; that's also a phenomenon with other tools.)

The point was that you have a powerful and flexible base. With that
you have either things already available or can simply integrate them.

> Where does Vim support that natively?

This is a strange question from someone who was elsethread advocating
an open, flexible editor interface (as Emacs or Vim have).

For a concrete way it depends on what you define a "word" in HTML. (If
you just mean what Unixes 'wc -w' provides then you could just simply
call the tool from within the editor on the actual text (with '!G', as
could already be done with classic Vi) or with Vim you can interrogate
that information with 'g^g' ("g Ctrl-G") that provides something like,
say,  "Col 1 of 61; Line 1 of 835; Word 1 of 4956; Byte 1 of 49324".
Concerning the question what a "HTML-word" is there's also features in
Vim to _define_ what a "word" actually is considered to be.)

But, as already indicated, I'm not inclined to contribute to the Editor
War. You will certainly find things in Emacs - especially things beyond
editing - that some or even all other editors don't [natively] support.
So what?

Janis

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  Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-15 11:42 +0100
    Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-15 11:28 +0000
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        Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-15 18:10 +0000
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      Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 13:36 +0100
        Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-15 18:10 +0000
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            Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-17 04:28 +0000
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                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-17 18:37 +0000
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  Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-15 09:04 -0500
    Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-15 18:09 +0000
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        Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-15 20:03 +0000
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            Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-16 02:16 +0000
        Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-18 06:47 +0000
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                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-18 20:55 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:29 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:44 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-19 03:50 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-19 03:56 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-19 09:43 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-19 14:16 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-19 21:27 +0000
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                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-20 01:13 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-20 01:15 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-20 14:00 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-21 04:48 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-21 13:28 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-21 08:39 -0500
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                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:33 +0100
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-18 20:54 +0000
            Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-18 20:50 +0000
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                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:46 +0000
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                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-19 21:16 +0000
                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-20 03:04 +0000
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                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-21 04:47 +0000
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                Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-22 00:11 +0000
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                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-23 22:18 +0000
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                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-23 23:35 +0000
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-23 23:48 +0000
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-24 00:48 +0000
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-24 11:30 +0100
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2025-01-24 00:49 +0100
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-24 10:40 +0100
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-24 18:03 +0000
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-24 18:14 +0000
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-25 14:22 +0100
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:39 +0100
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-01-25 17:48 +0100
                Re: Strange questions (Was: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-23 23:46 +0000
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      Re: How to edit HTML source file on Windows in one step (not two)? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-16 11:08 -0500
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