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Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics
Date 2017-06-23 00:26 +0200
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Tom Roberts wrote:

> On 6/21/17 6/21/17   4:23 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Tom Roberts wrote:
>>> the twin paradox does NOT demonstrate "time dilation",
>> But it does.
> 
> No, it doesn't.

Yes it does, from the perspective of the twin that stays at home as they can 
perfectly explain the result this way.

It also demonstrates length contraction and the relativity of simultaneity 
from the perspective of the traveling twin: the former is how the traveling 
twin can explain to them that their clocks ticked off less time, the latter 
how despite symmetric time dilation the traveling twin can be younger than 
the twin at home – they have changed their frame of reference when turning 
around, the twin at home has not.

> "Time dilation" is a differential measurement that applies
> at individual points along a trajectory.

It is the difference in elapsed time between two events as measured by 
observers that are not co-moving or are at different gravitational 
potential.

BTW, time dilation is a proper scientific term.  It does not make sense to 
put it in quotes as if it were not.  You would not write “"proper time"” 
either, would you?

> But the twins NEVER make such measurements,

Ex falso quodlibet.

> they only compare their elapsed proper times between meetings. […]

Irrelevant.
 
>>> it demonstrates that different timelike paths through spacetime can have
>>> different elapsed proper times.
>> That, too.
> 
> That, ONLY. For the simple reason that this is the ONLY measurement they
> make.

Two sides of the same coin.  This is a *thought* experiment.  ISTM you are 
stuck in experimental physicist’s thinking.

-- 
PointedEars

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                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-20 08:41 -0500
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 06:47 -0700
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 13:56 +0000
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 13:54 +0000
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-20 19:15 -0500
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-21 09:36 +0000
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 13:11 +0000
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-20 08:45 -0500
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 13:49 +0000
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                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-20 11:23 -0500
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                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-21 23:23 +0200
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> - 2017-06-21 21:48 +0000
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-22 08:31 -0500
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-23 00:26 +0200
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-22 17:56 -0500
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-23 08:38 +0200
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> - 2017-06-23 11:15 +0000
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> - 2017-06-23 11:14 +0000
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> - 2017-06-23 11:12 +0000
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-20 18:52 +0200
            Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2017-06-19 13:24 -0500
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