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Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics
Date 2017-06-18 02:45 +0200
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Odd Bodkin wrote:

> Ed Lake <detect@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> You wrote: "if we were each traveling toward each other at the speed of
>> light wrt the ground, we would NOT be traveling at 2c wrt each other."
>> 
>> Yes, we would.
> 
>  No you would not. Adding together is not how speeds combine.
> Einstein was quite clear about this in his 1905 paper. See the section on
> composition of velocities.

To elaborate on that a bit, from the Lorentz transformation

  x = γ (x' + v t')
  t = γ (t' + v x'∕c²)

  γ = 1∕√(1 − v²∕c²)

and

  u  = ∆x ∕∆t
  u' = ∆x'∕∆t'

follows that the combination u of speeds v and u', where u' is measured in a 
frame of reference that is moving at speed v relative to the observer, is

  u = (v + u')∕(1 + v u'∕c²)

so that for v = u' = c

  u(c, c) = (c + c)∕(1 + c²∕c²) = (2 c)∕2 = c

and a combined speed will never exceed c [the former can also be shown, 
e.g., by calculating the observed speed of light perpendicular to
the direction of motion from the Lorentz-transformed component of velocity 
of light in that direction – it also is √(v² + (c∕γ)² + 0²) = c].

One can also see that if v, u', or both are much less than c, then the 
denominator approaches 1 as v, u', or both approach zero, and the 
aforementioned relativistic velocity "addition" reduces to the Galilean 
velocity *addition*, which is why this approximation suffices for everyday 
life:

    lim    (v + u')∕(1 + v u'∕c²) = v + u'
  v u' → 0

(There are of course other mathematical formulations of this, but I think 
this one is the easiest to understand for someone who is only familiar with 
Galilean/Newtonian mechanics.)

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity-addition_formula#Galilean_relativity>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity-addition_formula#Special_relativity>

-- 
PointedEars

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                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2017-06-20 06:47 -0700
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 13:56 +0000
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                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-20 19:15 -0500
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                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-20 08:45 -0500
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Eshiki Orakut <usa@iwikuh.ki> - 2017-06-20 13:49 +0000
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                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-23 00:26 +0200
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-06-22 17:56 -0500
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2017-06-23 08:38 +0200
                Re: Einstein's False Postulate That Killed Physics Lipek Mniak <iluka@sskwpiw.pp> - 2017-06-23 11:15 +0000
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